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| Posted by: dramedy 04:00 pm EDT 06/30/20 | |
| In reply to: re: 3 months (or a prolonged time) without going to the theater? - Dale 02:58 pm EDT 06/30/20 | |
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| A taped stage production is not television. Are the decade of NTLive movies? Movies and tv are shows written for those medium and are constructed differently, filmed differently and acted differently. Yes, viewing live vs taped is different but I don’t consider it a compete metamorphosis of the stages show. |
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| re: I disagree. | |
| Posted by: ryhog 09:10 pm EDT 06/30/20 | |
| In reply to: I disagree. - dramedy 04:00 pm EDT 06/30/20 | |
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| I agree and disagree with all of you. I agree with the sentiment that a taped performance is not a substitute for the live performance, and I'd also say that anything you watch on television is television. But I also think we spend too much time trying to fit square pegs in round holes and applying labels that are unnecessary. I want to be back in a theatre as much as anyone but I am not going to say that I have not thoroughly enjoyed taped or filmed shows during this pandemic. That said, I look forward to the time that I can revert to my unfaltering belief that taped or filmed stage shows are the devil's work. And let me add that I have cherished the best of the live (or nearly live) readings with which we have been graced over these last few months more than the filmed stage shows. | |
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| I disagree again—just not as strongly. | |
| Posted by: dramedy 11:00 am EDT 07/01/20 | |
| In reply to: re: I disagree. - ryhog 09:10 pm EDT 06/30/20 | |
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| I prefer a taped version than the stage readings. If you eliminate the one person shows (like Streisand and Bette Davis plays) and the few with married couple, the multi cast rarely work. It’s better than nothing—usually. There have been several that I just stopped watching and I know don’t watch ones of shows Ive seen already. And any physical interaction really shows the problems—fuddy meers and gov inspector. Tartuffe did a better job with “sets” and hiding under furniture. As ntlive. There have been a few of those plays which I clearly enjoyed in a wide movie seat With plenty of leg room and would have hated in a cramped theater seat. Hansard is a prime example of that. |
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| re: I disagree again—just not as strongly. | |
| Posted by: ryhog 02:50 pm EDT 07/01/20 | |
| In reply to: I disagree again—just not as strongly. - dramedy 11:00 am EDT 07/01/20 | |
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| A few more back and forths and you will have me sitting in your lap in a cramped theatre seat. And no, I have no idea what that means... |
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| You read me like a book | |
| Posted by: dramedy 03:25 pm EDT 07/01/20 | |
| In reply to: re: I disagree again—just not as strongly. - ryhog 02:50 pm EDT 07/01/20 | |
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| The best proposition I’ve had all year. | |
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| I agree with "I disagree"! | |
| Posted by: portenopete 05:23 pm EDT 06/30/20 | |
| In reply to: I disagree. - dramedy 04:00 pm EDT 06/30/20 | |
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| I was knocked out by the NT Live ANGELS IN AMERICA. Ditto by the Roundabout SHE LOVES ME on Broadway.com which I watched with about a dozen friends in my basement and which we adored. Seeing it in a theatre with other people is communal. Seeing live actors reacting to a live audience is not television or a movie. Those kind of blanket pronouncements are so irritating! Okay, for YOU it's not ideal! Don't imply the rest of us are so insensitive or moronic not to notice the difference. I'm lucky to be able to see a lot of NT stuff live in London, which makes me feel more conversant with the theatres and the space, maybe, when I encounter it in recordings? But those programs have been godsends to people who can't afford or find time to travel to see things. |
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| I don't think you're insensitive or moronic but... | |
| Posted by: KingSpeed 05:10 am EDT 07/01/20 | |
| In reply to: I agree with "I disagree"! - portenopete 05:23 pm EDT 06/30/20 | |
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| ...shows broadcast on TV are TV. Laverne & Shirley was filmed in front of a live studio audience. Doesn't make it theater. It's awesome that you were knocked out by a filmed version of ANGELS IN AMERICA. Doesn't make you insensitive or moronic that you loved it. It's very possible you might've liked it LESS in the theater. I don't believe theater is intrinsically better than television. I'd much rather watch "Succession" than HEAD OVER HEELS. | |
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| re: I don't think you're insensitive or moronic but... | |
| Posted by: mikem 11:54 am EDT 07/01/20 | |
| In reply to: I don't think you're insensitive or moronic but... - KingSpeed 05:10 am EDT 07/01/20 | |
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| There are two aspects of live theater that are missing from the pre-recorded broadcasts. One is that the show is not happening at the same time you are watching. The other is that it's not happening in the same room as you're in. I'm finding that both aspects are important to me, but particularly the first one. There's something about the actor experiencing his journey at the same time you're experiencing it. I'm fine with watching someone submit the best take, but it feels different to me than what I get out of going to the theater. | |
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| Prose vs plot | |
| Last Edit: dramedy 03:36 pm EDT 07/01/20 | |
| Posted by: dramedy 03:34 pm EDT 07/01/20 | |
| In reply to: re: I don't think you're insensitive or moronic but... - mikem 11:54 am EDT 07/01/20 | |
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| I love a plot and i have a book club friend that loves prose more the plot. Probably one reason I don’t like poetry much. I’m an observer in theater. I like the journey of getting from a to b. A cerebral experience. But others (and I suspect you) just want to be part of it. There could be no plot but you want to be the actors in emotion of what happens to the characters. I think that perspective probably requires more live in person performance. |
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| re: Prose vs plot | |
| Last Edit: mikem 04:41 pm EDT 07/01/20 | |
| Posted by: mikem 04:40 pm EDT 07/01/20 | |
| In reply to: Prose vs plot - dramedy 03:34 pm EDT 07/01/20 | |
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| dramedy, that's an interesting and perceptive way of looking at it. For me, part of what I miss about the theater is leaving having FELT something. That doesn't mean I have to feel the same way as the actors/characters do -- sometimes the characters make me feel the opposite of what they are feeling -- but that emotional response is something I don't get in the same way from the movies or television. I certainly enjoy movies/TV and taking the cerebral journey, but, as you said, that heightened emotional response comes from being in the same room, not just with the actors but with fellow audience members, having a shared experience. It's interesting because I'm generally much more plot-driven. When I read a book, I generally focus on the plot rather than the elegance of the language. |
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| re: I don't think you're insensitive or moronic but... | |
| Posted by: ryhog 03:01 pm EDT 07/01/20 | |
| In reply to: re: I don't think you're insensitive or moronic but... - mikem 11:54 am EDT 07/01/20 | |
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| funny, I would reverse the order of importance. I also note that your primary objection can be overcome by watching a live performance. | |
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| Me, Too | |
| Posted by: Whistler 04:42 pm EDT 06/30/20 | |
| In reply to: I disagree. - dramedy 04:00 pm EDT 06/30/20 | |
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| Actually, I far prefer to watch recorded performances in my quiet, comfortable home, far from commutes, security checks, rattling candy wrappers, spilled drinks, cell phone noises and lights, crowded bathrooms, and the admittedly very occasional seat-humping patron. I can see the actors' faces and hear their voices more clearly, too. | |
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| That's television, not theater. | |
| Posted by: KingSpeed 05:11 am EDT 07/01/20 | |
| In reply to: Me, Too - Whistler 04:42 pm EDT 06/30/20 | |
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| And there's nothing wrong with that. | |
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