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| Kamala Harris Quotes the Title of a Broadway Musical to Describe . . . | |
| Posted by: BroadwayTonyJ 07:27 pm EDT 07/01/20 | |
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| the Briefings-Gate Scandal. In an interview with Nicolle Wallace this afternoon Harris characterized the current story about what did the President know and when did he know it by making reference to a fairly obscure Broadway musical. Did anyone else catch her remark? Any guesses to the name of the musical? It's being revived in Chicago in February, 2021. | |
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| re: Kamala Harris Quotes the Title of a Broadway Musical to Describe . . . | |
| Posted by: StageLover 09:10 am EDT 07/02/20 | |
| In reply to: Kamala Harris Quotes the Title of a Broadway Musical to Describe . . . - BroadwayTonyJ 07:27 pm EDT 07/01/20 | |
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| There is no way Harris was referencing a 45 year-old Broadway flop. | |
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| re: Kamala Harris Quotes the Title of a Broadway Musical to Describe . . . | |
| Posted by: AlanScott 01:07 pm EDT 07/02/20 | |
| In reply to: re: Kamala Harris Quotes the Title of a Broadway Musical to Describe . . . - StageLover 09:10 am EDT 07/02/20 | |
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| If only she'd said, "I wish I could turn Donald Trump into a Flahooley doll" or "When I hear Donald Trump speak, I don't feel like walking happy" or "Donald Trump isn't fit to be mayor of Buttrio Square," we'd be pretty sure she was referencing a flop Broadway musical. | |
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| re: Kamala Harris Quotes the Title of a Broadway Musical to Describe . . . | |
| Posted by: StageLover 07:08 pm EDT 07/02/20 | |
| In reply to: re: Kamala Harris Quotes the Title of a Broadway Musical to Describe . . . - AlanScott 01:07 pm EDT 07/02/20 | |
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| Now if you could've just worked MOOSE MURDERS in there... | |
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| re: Kamala Harris Quotes the Title of a Broadway Musical to Describe . . . | |
| Posted by: AlanScott 07:20 pm EDT 07/02/20 | |
| In reply to: re: Kamala Harris Quotes the Title of a Broadway Musical to Describe . . . - StageLover 07:08 pm EDT 07/02/20 | |
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| Funny you should mention Moose Murders because a couple of days ago I was researching some things about it, and, well, here goes. "Donald Trump is personally responsible for one of the most dangerous pieces of misinformation of our time. He has had it spread around that the first preview was on January 30, 1983, but it was on January 29. There was no performance at all on January 30." |
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| re: Kamala Harris Quotes the Title of a Broadway Musical to Describe . . . | |
| Posted by: StageLover 07:21 pm EDT 07/02/20 | |
| In reply to: re: Kamala Harris Quotes the Title of a Broadway Musical to Describe . . . - AlanScott 07:20 pm EDT 07/02/20 | |
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| Poor Eve Arden dodged a bullet on that one. | |
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| re: Kamala Harris Quotes the Title of a Broadway Musical to Describe . . . | |
| Posted by: AlanScott 08:03 pm EDT 07/02/20 | |
| In reply to: re: Kamala Harris Quotes the Title of a Broadway Musical to Describe . . . - StageLover 07:21 pm EDT 07/02/20 | |
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| Except that the producer said that they had fired her because she wasn't up to it. But I think no one noticed that he said that. At least one critic, smarmy Leonard Harris on CBS, congratulated Arden for having left it. It's too bad that she didn't come back to Broadway in a success. I wonder if they ever considered having her take over in Hello, Dolly!, which she played in Chicago when Channing left to make Thoroughly Modern Millie, or Butterflies Are Free, which she did on tour. | |
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| re: Kamala Harris Quotes the Title of a Broadway Musical to Describe . . . | |
| Posted by: BroadwayTonyJ 07:03 am EDT 07/03/20 | |
| In reply to: re: Kamala Harris Quotes the Title of a Broadway Musical to Describe . . . - AlanScott 08:03 pm EDT 07/02/20 | |
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| My parents actually saw Eve Arden in the Dolly tour when it played Chicago. They both raved about how funny and touching she was in the show. | |
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| It's a Scandal! It's a Outrage! -- BroadwayTonyJ Puts Foot in Mouth (AGAIN!) | |
| Posted by: BroadwayTonyJ 07:14 am EDT 07/02/20 | |
| In reply to: Kamala Harris Quotes the Title of a Broadway Musical to Describe . . . - BroadwayTonyJ 07:27 pm EDT 07/01/20 | |
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| Sorry about that! I didn't intend to mislead anyone. Call me dumb or naïve, but I actually didn't know that "something's afoot" was a common phrase in the U.S. -- I thought it was the sort of quaint exclamation that a British fictional character like Miss Marple might utter. Yesterday when I heard Kamala Harris say it to Nicolle Wallace, I thought she was being tongue in cheek. I thought it was funny that she would make a remark in jest that was the title of an obscure Broadway musical. I should have made that clearer in my original post. | |
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| re: It's a Scandal! It's a Outrage! -- BroadwayTonyJ Puts Foot in Mouth (AGAIN!) | |
| Posted by: AlanScott 01:43 pm EDT 07/02/20 | |
| In reply to: It's a Scandal! It's a Outrage! -- BroadwayTonyJ Puts Foot in Mouth (AGAIN!) - BroadwayTonyJ 07:14 am EDT 07/02/20 | |
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| I think it is a general type of phrase that you might expect to read or hear in a British murder mystery. I wouldn't say it was an especially common phrase in the U.S. (or anywhere), and I probably overstated it a bit in my reply further down, but I really don't think Harris was referencing the musical. But I suppose it's possible she saw a production of it somewhere at some point, and the phrase stuck in her head. Anyway, here's a little-known fact about "It's a Scandal! It's a Outrage!": Playbills for the original production and the original tour listed it as "It's a Scandal! It's an Outrage!" except opening week at the St. James when a typo made it ""It's a Scandal! It's n Outrage!" Mavens of musicals will correct you if you say or type "It's a Scandal! It's an Outrage!", and the lyric is "It's a Scandal! It's a Outrage!", but apparently Hammerstein either never noticed that it said "an" in the playbills or didn't care or wanted it that way. |
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| re: It's a Scandal! It's a Outrage! -- BroadwayTonyJ Puts Foot in Mouth (AGAIN!) | |
| Posted by: huskyital (huskyital@yahoo.com) 10:15 am EDT 07/02/20 | |
| In reply to: It's a Scandal! It's a Outrage! -- BroadwayTonyJ Puts Foot in Mouth (AGAIN!) - BroadwayTonyJ 07:14 am EDT 07/02/20 | |
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| I saw SOMETHING"S AFOOT in previews....LOVED IT....I thought it would be a big hit.....wasn't Tessie Oshea in it? | |
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| re: It's a Scandal! It's a Outrage! -- BroadwayTonyJ Puts Foot in Mouth (AGAIN!) | |
| Posted by: mermaniac 12:04 pm EDT 07/02/20 | |
| In reply to: re: It's a Scandal! It's a Outrage! -- BroadwayTonyJ Puts Foot in Mouth (AGAIN!) - huskyital 10:15 am EDT 07/02/20 | |
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| Indeed she was, and the show was great. Get the new CD and watch the Jean Stapleton production on you tube. | |
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| re: It's a Scandal! It's a Outrage! -- BroadwayTonyJ Puts Foot in Mouth (AGAIN!) | |
| Posted by: Pokernight 11:10 am EDT 07/02/20 | |
| In reply to: re: It's a Scandal! It's a Outrage! -- BroadwayTonyJ Puts Foot in Mouth (AGAIN!) - huskyital 10:15 am EDT 07/02/20 | |
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| I saw a delightful production with Mary Jo Catlett. | |
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| re: It's a Scandal! It's a Outrage! -- BroadwayTonyJ Puts Foot in Mouth (AGAIN!) | |
| Posted by: whereismikeyfl 08:25 am EDT 07/02/20 | |
| In reply to: It's a Scandal! It's a Outrage! -- BroadwayTonyJ Puts Foot in Mouth (AGAIN!) - BroadwayTonyJ 07:14 am EDT 07/02/20 | |
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| It is not a "common phrase" in the US. It is a quaint exclamation that we would associate with British mystery story. (Often attributed to the character of Sherlock Holmes.) She was referencing British mystery stories. However, a few weeks ago when Trump had a rally in Tulsa, every newscaster suddenly filled their broadcasts with references to the title of an R&H musical. It was uncanny. |
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| re: It's a Scandal! It's a Outrage! -- BroadwayTonyJ Puts Foot in Mouth (AGAIN!) | |
| Posted by: Chromolume 03:47 pm EDT 07/02/20 | |
| In reply to: re: It's a Scandal! It's a Outrage! -- BroadwayTonyJ Puts Foot in Mouth (AGAIN!) - whereismikeyfl 08:25 am EDT 07/02/20 | |
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| However, a few weeks ago when Trump had a rally in Tulsa, every newscaster suddenly filled their broadcasts with references to the title of an R&H musical. It was uncanny. Well, it was certainly proven that filling the BOK center and beyond was a Pipe Dream...:-) |
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| re: It's a Scandal! It's a Outrage! -- BroadwayTonyJ Puts Foot in Mouth (AGAIN!) | |
| Posted by: AlanScott 07:49 pm EDT 07/02/20 | |
| In reply to: re: It's a Scandal! It's a Outrage! -- BroadwayTonyJ Puts Foot in Mouth (AGAIN!) - Chromolume 03:47 pm EDT 07/02/20 | |
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| Well, me and Juliet was there! But I guess we won't be hearing the sound of Tom Petty music anymore. | |
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| re: It's a Scandal! It's a Outrage! -- BroadwayTonyJ Puts Foot in Mouth (AGAIN!) | |
| Posted by: showtunetrivia 05:22 pm EDT 07/02/20 | |
| In reply to: re: It's a Scandal! It's a Outrage! -- BroadwayTonyJ Puts Foot in Mouth (AGAIN!) - Chromolume 03:47 pm EDT 07/02/20 | |
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| Not the title of an R&H show, but newscasters lately keep mentioning one of the duo’s songs (From SOUTH PACIFIC) a lot, every time the president and politicians keep spinning pleasant yarns in the face of rising pandemic numbers. Laura |
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| re: It's a Scandal! It's a Outrage! -- BroadwayTonyJ Puts Foot in Mouth (AGAIN!) | |
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| Posted by: MockingbirdGirl 09:19 am EDT 07/02/20 | |
| In reply to: re: It's a Scandal! It's a Outrage! -- BroadwayTonyJ Puts Foot in Mouth (AGAIN!) - whereismikeyfl 08:25 am EDT 07/02/20 | |
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| The Holmsian expression is not "something's afoot" but rather "the game is afoot" (though of course, he's really quoting Henry IV, Part 1). | |
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| re: It's a Scandal! It's a Outrage! -- BroadwayTonyJ Puts Foot in Mouth (AGAIN!) | |
| Posted by: BroadwayTonyJ 08:52 am EDT 07/02/20 | |
| In reply to: re: It's a Scandal! It's a Outrage! -- BroadwayTonyJ Puts Foot in Mouth (AGAIN!) - whereismikeyfl 08:25 am EDT 07/02/20 | |
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| "She was referencing British mystery stories." That little light bulb just went off in my head. Of course that's it, but I never thought of that. I should point out that I recently purchased the studio cast CD of the Broadway musical Something's Afoot, a show that surprisingly has been done twice in the Chicago area in the last 9 years and is scheduled to be staged again locally early next year. In addition, I can't recall ever hearing the phrase itself being used in any sort of typical conversation. When Harris said it yesterday, the only thing that came into my head was the (admittedly) not particularly familiar title of the 70's show. With no live theatre to see in person, I was apparently grasping at a straw and figured Harris' remark worthy of a post on ATC. |
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| Aw, you’re too hard on yourself, BroadwayTonyJ | |
| Posted by: showtunetrivia 10:38 am EDT 07/02/20 | |
| In reply to: re: It's a Scandal! It's a Outrage! -- BroadwayTonyJ Puts Foot in Mouth (AGAIN!) - BroadwayTonyJ 08:52 am EDT 07/02/20 | |
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| I appreciated the discussion of flop seventies musicals, common or uncommon turns of phrase, and some of the posters’ answers made me laugh. Ya done good. Now go wash your foot. What else can we do around here for fun these days? Laura, still in plumbing limbo |
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| I may have mentioned this before | |
| Posted by: PlayWiz 03:00 pm EDT 07/02/20 | |
| In reply to: Aw, you’re too hard on yourself, BroadwayTonyJ - showtunetrivia 10:38 am EDT 07/02/20 | |
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| but you might consider watching (and or maybe writing) a musical version of "Cluny Brown" Ernst Lubitsch (he with the Lubitsch touch)'s charming comedy about a lady plumber starring Jennifer Jones and Charles Boyer. Or maybe that's too much plumbing for you to take. | |
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| re: I may have mentioned this before | |
| Posted by: showtunetrivia 05:26 pm EDT 07/02/20 | |
| In reply to: I may have mentioned this before - PlayWiz 03:00 pm EDT 07/02/20 | |
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| Oh, PlayWiz, I’m long past the grin and bear it stage, and am now flailing in the Pit of Despair. I will file your helpful suggestion for later. Laura, hoping the form she had notarized results in the Magical Necessary Permit |
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| re: Aw, you’re too hard on yourself, BroadwayTonyJ | |
| Posted by: dreambaby 10:46 am EDT 07/02/20 | |
| In reply to: Aw, you’re too hard on yourself, BroadwayTonyJ - showtunetrivia 10:38 am EDT 07/02/20 | |
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| Agreed. I find it helpful to have some pleasurable, escapist, and (yikes) I admit even, sometimes, nostalgic memories and discussion in ATC in the mix of my otherwise much more sobering and/or challenging online "content engagement." | |
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| re: Aw, you’re too hard on yourself, BroadwayTonyJ | |
| Last Edit: BroadwayTonyJ 11:50 am EDT 07/02/20 | |
| Posted by: BroadwayTonyJ 11:49 am EDT 07/02/20 | |
| In reply to: re: Aw, you’re too hard on yourself, BroadwayTonyJ - dreambaby 10:46 am EDT 07/02/20 | |
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| Thanks, showtunetrivia and dreambaby. When I noticed the new comments in response to my original post this morning, I thought it best to get ahead of the curve and make an apology or explanation or clarification to head off further negative reaction to my misleading post. Just to set the record straight, I'm a big fan of Kamala Harris and was delighted by her reference (even if I read too much Broadway into it that wasn't really there). |
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| re: Aw, you’re too hard on yourself, BroadwayTonyJ | |
| Posted by: PlayWiz 03:03 pm EDT 07/02/20 | |
| In reply to: re: Aw, you’re too hard on yourself, BroadwayTonyJ - BroadwayTonyJ 11:49 am EDT 07/02/20 | |
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| I'm pretty sure I've heard newscasters and others on tv say at certain points "Ya Got Trouble" and maybe even adding "Right here in River City" when talking about some incidents in the news at certain points over the years. When Dolly the sheep was introduced to the world there were lots of "Hello, Dolly!" references, as well as when there was a story about Dolly Parton. Theater fans like us eat that kind of stuff up! | |
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| re: Kamala Harris Quotes the Title of a Broadway Musical to Describe . . . | |
| Posted by: AlanScott 10:12 pm EDT 07/01/20 | |
| In reply to: Kamala Harris Quotes the Title of a Broadway Musical to Describe . . . - BroadwayTonyJ 07:27 pm EDT 07/01/20 | |
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| I just watched the interview. It's a common phrase. I sort of thought you meant that she made a reference that was clearly intended to be about a specific Broadway musical, but I suspect she has no idea that there ever was a musical by this title. Unless you meant a different musical than the one I think you mean, but since this one starred a performer who had won a Tony and it featured a performer who would win a Tony this century, I think it must be the show you mean. | |
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| re: Kamala Harris Quotes the Title of a Broadway Musical to Describe . . . | |
| Posted by: BroadwayTonyJ 10:28 pm EDT 07/01/20 | |
| In reply to: re: Kamala Harris Quotes the Title of a Broadway Musical to Describe . . . - AlanScott 10:12 pm EDT 07/01/20 | |
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| I don't know for sure. But the way she phrased it (she definitely gave it an exclamation point), she may have known it was a Broadway show or perhaps not. In my original post, I said she made a reference to a Broadway musical, but did not necessarily call the situation a Broadway show. Anyway, because her remark evoked a Broadway musical, I thought it was worth posting. | |
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| Ditto | |
| Posted by: Michael_212 10:21 pm EDT 07/01/20 | |
| In reply to: re: Kamala Harris Quotes the Title of a Broadway Musical to Describe . . . - AlanScott 10:12 pm EDT 07/01/20 | |
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| I just listened to it too, and I agree. | |
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| Last Edit: Chromolume 10:27 pm EDT 07/01/20 | |
| Posted by: Chromolume 10:23 pm EDT 07/01/20 | |
| In reply to: Ditto - Michael_212 10:21 pm EDT 07/01/20 | |
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| Agreed also. I tend to think that unless Harris is a major fan of musicals, she's never heard of that show. On the other hand, John Heilemann occasionally does use musical references - I remember a fairly specific reference to Iowa and "The Music Man" he made sometime back - and tonight, also on MSNBC, he referred repeatedly to trump living in Never Never Land (which doesn't have to be specifically a musical reference, but certainly could be). |
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| Posted by: WaymanWong 02:11 am EDT 07/02/20 | |
| In reply to: re: Ditto - Chromolume 10:23 pm EDT 07/01/20 | |
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| ''I tend to think that unless Harris is a major fan of musicals, she's never heard of that show.'' I don't even think that tons of major fans of musicals are familiar with a 1976 flop that only ran 61 performances. ''Something's afoot'' is a common phrase. And probably popularized, in part, by Sherlock Holmes, who once said, ''The game is afoot.'' |
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| Posted by: tedlefdes 05:58 am EDT 07/02/20 | |
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| The first use of 'the game is afoot' is found in Shakespeare's King Henry IV Part I, 1597, spoken from Northumberland to Hotspur; it also appears in Henry V, delivered by the title character. 'Mischief, thou art afoot' is from Anthony in Julius Caesar. | |
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| Posted by: larry13 10:52 pm EDT 07/01/20 | |
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| With all due respect ot Kamala Harris, I'm sure she NEVER heard of that show NOR would she be referencing a show NO one knew. It is, as Alan said, a common expression. But it was not inappropriate for the OP to bring it up and provide a guessing game HERE where one or two people remembered it and a few others were interested in looking it up. | |
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| So what was the show???? | |
| Posted by: KCforBway 08:59 pm EDT 07/01/20 | |
| In reply to: Kamala Harris Quotes the Title of a Broadway Musical to Describe . . . - BroadwayTonyJ 07:27 pm EDT 07/01/20 | |
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| Please share! | |
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| "Let My People Come" ! nm | |
| Posted by: PlayWiz 01:11 am EDT 07/02/20 | |
| In reply to: So what was the show???? - KCforBway 08:59 pm EDT 07/01/20 | |
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| re: So what was the show???? | |
| Posted by: Ann 09:16 pm EDT 07/01/20 | |
| In reply to: So what was the show???? - KCforBway 08:59 pm EDT 07/01/20 | |
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| It's a secret! | |
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| Something's Afoot | |
| Posted by: BroadwayTonyJ 10:18 pm EDT 07/01/20 | |
| In reply to: re: So what was the show???? - Ann 09:16 pm EDT 07/01/20 | |
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| The '76 musical had a short run: 61 perfs and 13 previews. Tony-winner Tessie O'Shea played Miss Tweed and future Tony-winner Gary Beach was cast as Nigel Rancour. The studio cast recording features Broadway veteran Jim Dale in a non-singing role. There is a planned revival of Something's Afoot at the Skokie Theatre in the Chicago area, beginning 2/05/2021. Fingers crossed. Great guesses by MockingbirdGirl and Indavidzopinion, much wittier than Ms. Harris' remark, although I think Harris was pretty astute in describing the situation using a Broadway reference. Just IMO. |
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| re: Something's Afoot | |
| Posted by: Holland 01:44 am EDT 07/02/20 | |
| In reply to: Something's Afoot - BroadwayTonyJ 10:18 pm EDT 07/01/20 | |
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| And Pat Carroll was wonderful in a highly entertaining summer stock production. | |
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| Please please be AMERICAN PSYCHO (nm) | |
| Posted by: MockingbirdGirl 08:33 pm EDT 07/01/20 | |
| In reply to: Kamala Harris Quotes the Title of a Broadway Musical to Describe . . . - BroadwayTonyJ 07:27 pm EDT 07/01/20 | |
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| re: Please please be AMERICAN PSYCHO (nm) | |
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| Posted by: BroadwayTonyJ 08:39 pm EDT 07/01/20 | |
| In reply to: Please please be AMERICAN PSYCHO (nm) - MockingbirdGirl 08:33 pm EDT 07/01/20 | |
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| No, but it should have been. Thanks for the best laugh I've had since the theatre shutdown. Another clue: The show's cast recording (a studio, not an OBC one) features a 5-time Tony nominee and 1-time winner in a non-singing role. |
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| re: Kamala Harris Quotes the Title of a Broadway Musical to Describe . . . | |
| Posted by: Indavidzopinion 07:33 pm EDT 07/01/20 | |
| In reply to: Kamala Harris Quotes the Title of a Broadway Musical to Describe . . . - BroadwayTonyJ 07:27 pm EDT 07/01/20 | |
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| I know it’s not “The Zulu and the Zaida,” but you shouldn’t waste a chance when you’ve got a chance to say.... | |
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| re: Kamala Harris Quotes the Title of a Broadway Musical to Describe . . . | |
| Last Edit: BroadwayTonyJ 07:49 pm EDT 07/01/20 | |
| Posted by: BroadwayTonyJ 07:43 pm EDT 07/01/20 | |
| In reply to: re: Kamala Harris Quotes the Title of a Broadway Musical to Describe . . . - Indavidzopinion 07:33 pm EDT 07/01/20 | |
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| Not that obscure. The show she quoted had a brief run on Broadway, but gets done occasionally in regional theatre. It featured a Tony-winning performer and another who would win a Tony this century. BTW, her reference was not as clever as yours. Hers was accurate, but less imaginative than the one you came up with. But I give her credit for making me think of Broadway when I haven't been to a theater in over 3 months. |
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