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| re: Lerner & Loewe's "I Remember It Well" and Marguerite Monnot's "Our Language of Love" -- Similarities? | |
| Posted by: NewtonUK 09:00 am EDT 07/02/20 | |
| In reply to: re: Lerner & Loewe's "I Remember It Well" and Marguerite Monnot's "Our Language of Love" -- Similarities? - AnObserver 08:13 am EDT 07/02/20 | |
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| The lyric of I REMEMBER IT WELL was first used in LOVE LIFE, to music by Kurt Weill. | |
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| re: Lerner & Loewe's "I Remember It Well" and Marguerite Monnot's "Our Language of Love" -- Similarities? | |
| Posted by: Erik_Haagensen 11:38 am EDT 07/02/20 | |
| In reply to: re: Lerner & Loewe's "I Remember It Well" and Marguerite Monnot's "Our Language of Love" -- Similarities? - NewtonUK 09:00 am EDT 07/02/20 | |
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| The lyric was not first used in LOVE LIFE. The title and the conceit were. The two lyrics share that and a similar structure, but the words are otherwise different, as befits two very different situations and sets of characters. | |
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| re: Lerner & Loewe's "I Remember It Well" and Marguerite Monnot's "Our Language of Love" -- Similarities? | |
| Posted by: BroadwayTonyJ 09:04 am EDT 07/02/20 | |
| In reply to: re: Lerner & Loewe's "I Remember It Well" and Marguerite Monnot's "Our Language of Love" -- Similarities? - NewtonUK 09:00 am EDT 07/02/20 | |
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| I am familiar with the Lerner-Weill song in Love Life, but its melody is much different than that of the Lerner-Loewe song. | |
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| re: Lerner & Loewe's "I Remember It Well" and Marguerite Monnot's "Our Language of Love" -- Similarities? Coincidental in any event | |
| Posted by: NewtonUK 09:21 am EDT 07/02/20 | |
| In reply to: re: Lerner & Loewe's "I Remember It Well" and Marguerite Monnot's "Our Language of Love" -- Similarities? - BroadwayTonyJ 09:04 am EDT 07/02/20 | |
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| The original French version of IRMA LA DOUCE opened in 1956. As far as I can tell, Language of Love was not in that version - though it may have been part of a totally different song. The English language rewrite open in London in July 1958. GIGI was released in May 1958. |
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| re: Lerner & Loewe's "I Remember It Well" and Marguerite Monnot's "Our Language of Love" -- Similarities? Coincidental in any event | |
| Posted by: AlanScott 12:49 pm EDT 07/02/20 | |
| In reply to: re: Lerner & Loewe's "I Remember It Well" and Marguerite Monnot's "Our Language of Love" -- Similarities? Coincidental in any event - NewtonUK 09:21 am EDT 07/02/20 | |
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| I'm not positive, but I think the linked recording of "Avec les Anges," which became, admittedly with the melody altered a bit, "Our Language of Love" is from the 45 EP Colette Renard, the original Paris Irma, recorded in 1956 or possibly early 1957. | |
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| re: Lerner & Loewe's "I Remember It Well" and Marguerite Monnot's "Our Language of Love" -- Similarities? Coincidental in any event | |
| Posted by: NewtonUK 03:06 pm EDT 07/02/20 | |
| In reply to: re: Lerner & Loewe's "I Remember It Well" and Marguerite Monnot's "Our Language of Love" -- Similarities? Coincidental in any event - AlanScott 12:49 pm EDT 07/02/20 | |
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| You are correct - amazing how little of the music from the French original made it, unscathed to the London production. And at least 4 cut songs. But it sounds so much better in French. Just discovered the Opera-Comique revival recording. | |
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| re: Lerner & Loewe's "I Remember It Well" and Marguerite Monnot's "Our Language of Love" -- Similarities? Coincidental in any event | |
| Posted by: NewtonUK 02:45 pm EDT 07/02/20 | |
| In reply to: re: Lerner & Loewe's "I Remember It Well" and Marguerite Monnot's "Our Language of Love" -- Similarities? Coincidental in any event - AlanScott 12:49 pm EDT 07/02/20 | |
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| I've got that recording - I have to unpack a CD player so I can check it out! | |
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| re: Lerner & Loewe's "I Remember It Well" and Marguerite Monnot's "Our Language of Love" -- Similarities? Coincidental in any event | |
| Posted by: BroadwayTonyJ 11:22 am EDT 07/02/20 | |
| In reply to: re: Lerner & Loewe's "I Remember It Well" and Marguerite Monnot's "Our Language of Love" -- Similarities? Coincidental in any event - NewtonUK 09:21 am EDT 07/02/20 | |
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| I was not suggesting that either Loewe or Monnot or even Previn was influenced by the other's song. If there is a similarity, I'm sure it was just happenstance. I'm just wondering if I'm imagining a similarity or do others discern what I'm getting at? | |
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| re: Lerner & Loewe's "I Remember It Well" and Marguerite Monnot's "Our Language of Love" -- Similarities? Coincidental in any event | |
| Posted by: keikekaze 04:39 pm EDT 07/02/20 | |
| In reply to: re: Lerner & Loewe's "I Remember It Well" and Marguerite Monnot's "Our Language of Love" -- Similarities? Coincidental in any event - BroadwayTonyJ 11:22 am EDT 07/02/20 | |
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| Yes, I think I hear what you're getting at. The "A" sections of both songs begin with four sets of four-note phrases, occupying about four measures total in each case, and then four measures of something slightly different (with slightly more notes to the variation in "Our Language of Love" ["not a word need be spoken, in our language of love"] than in "I Remember It Well" ["ah, yes, I remember it well"]). Both then open out into releases that are more lyrical (less conversational) than the "A" sections before returning to restatements of the original phrases. I think it's those four sets of four-note phrases at the beginning of each "A" that account for the likeness between the two songs, as the melodies are not really that much alike. Of course, with thousands of composers composing thousands of popular songs and theater and movie songs in 32-bar formats over the years, there are a lot of songs that are similar to one another in structure! | |
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