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| re: Casting of Hamilton | |
| Posted by: claploudly 08:47 pm EDT 07/03/20 | |
| In reply to: re: Casting of Hamilton - whereismikeyfl 08:34 pm EDT 07/03/20 | |
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| When you say "intended to be played by people of color" how do you know that? Does this mean that a college or community theatre can never perform Hamilton if there aren't enough people of color in the student body? Would it change the meaning of the show? Just not sure. | |
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| re: Casting of Hamilton | |
| Posted by: whereismikeyfl 08:42 am EDT 07/04/20 | |
| In reply to: re: Casting of Hamilton - claploudly 08:47 pm EDT 07/03/20 | |
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| I know it because Lin-Manuel Miranda and Thomas Kail have said this was their intent. I do not think they have spoken about ethnicity in future educational productions, but they have said that they would be okay with women being cast in the male roles. And yes, casting white people as the Americans in Hamilton would clearly change the meaning of the show. In Hamilton, even wealthy Americans are an underclass in the same way that even wealthy non-white people are seen as an underclass in America today. Demographics are always an issue in programing for community and college theater. There are always some plays that just cannot be done with the available casting pool. |
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| re: Casting of Hamilton | |
| Posted by: jbronsto 09:05 pm EDT 07/03/20 | |
| In reply to: re: Casting of Hamilton - claploudly 08:47 pm EDT 07/03/20 | |
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| The show wasn’t written without ethnicity in mind. It was conceived to be performed by principle actors of color (except for King George). You aren’t allowed to produce Who’s Afraid of Virginia Woolf with a George and Martha who are black and going forward, all white productions of Hairspray aren’t allowed. Community theatres and colleges sign a contract when they license a show and it would be as illegal for them to make an unauthorized change in the way the show is to be cast as it would be for them to insert unapproved songs. | |
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| “Virginia Woolf” and Black actors | |
| Posted by: kieran 09:23 pm EDT 07/03/20 | |
| In reply to: re: Casting of Hamilton - jbronsto 09:05 pm EDT 07/03/20 | |
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| Link | “Virginia Woolf” |
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| re: “Virginia Woolf” and Black actors | |
| Posted by: whereismikeyfl 08:56 am EDT 07/04/20 | |
| In reply to: “Virginia Woolf” and Black actors - kieran 09:23 pm EDT 07/03/20 | |
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| Interesting article. The requirement that rights would not be granted until after casting was done and headshots submitted to Albee's agent, scared off a few theaters in my largely hispanic community. I do not know any other writer who maintained such control over casting, which may be why Albee had the reputation for intractability regarding race. |
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| re: Casting of Hamilton | |
| Posted by: theaterbear 09:00 pm EDT 07/03/20 | |
| In reply to: re: Casting of Hamilton - claploudly 08:47 pm EDT 07/03/20 | |
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| Yes, colleges and theater groups will need to cast the show predominantly with people of color - that is the author's intent and he's made it clear several times - the casting notice got a large uproar a few years back when it specifically stated they were looking for people of color. Karens everywhere were FURIOUS that they couldn't play Angelica. | |
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| Yes the casting notice said non-white, I believe but... | |
| Last Edit: KingSpeed 01:17 am EDT 07/04/20 | |
| Posted by: KingSpeed 01:15 am EDT 07/04/20 | |
| In reply to: re: Casting of Hamilton - theaterbear 09:00 pm EDT 07/03/20 | |
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| ..I believe the casting notices now say all ethnicities. And that should be true for King George too, a role that I do not think has to be played by a white actor. As for high schools and colleges, it is a shame if a group can't work on this piece if the school is mostly white. If there aren't the black actors to cast, I think it's fine for a school to let their white students perform the piece. I would feel the same about say, The Wiz too. Not Dreamgirls, though. My opinion. | |
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| re: Yes the casting notice said non-white, I believe but... | |
| Posted by: ryhog 12:21 pm EDT 07/04/20 | |
| In reply to: Yes the casting notice said non-white, I believe but... - KingSpeed 01:15 am EDT 07/04/20 | |
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| I think this is an interesting question. Hamilton is not just about what it is about; it is about America then/America now and owning the history. That gets lost in a non-mixed cast but schools do lots of shows that lack verisimilitude. We shall see. | |
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| My only concern... | |
| Posted by: MockingbirdGirl 12:31 pm EDT 07/04/20 | |
| In reply to: re: Yes the casting notice said non-white, I believe but... - ryhog 12:21 pm EDT 07/04/20 | |
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| ... would be schools who see it as their duty to "restore" the historical figures for "authenticity." I have definitely seen ugly snippets of "how dare POC play white historical figures" in some less enlightened quarters this week. | |
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| re: My only concern... | |
| Posted by: ryhog 01:17 pm EDT 07/04/20 | |
| In reply to: My only concern... - MockingbirdGirl 12:31 pm EDT 07/04/20 | |
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| Yeah. I think the content of the show would make it hard to fully "restore" and I also think the show would prove substantively undesirable in those quarters but it is definitely something that they will need to monitor. | |
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