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| re: i've always assumed it was "so new?" and it always made sense that way | |
| Posted by: Chromolume 07:25 pm EDT 08/02/20 | |
| In reply to: re: i've always assumed it was "so new?" and it always made sense that way - TheOtherOne 07:13 pm EDT 08/02/20 | |
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| Yes. In the script and the score, it's "nu." There are no such thing as "official lyrics" online. I don't know one lyric site where songs aren't FULL of mistakes. Don't trust them. The other problem is something I mentioned earlier as well - the authentic pronunciation of the phrase is "zo nu" (with Yiddish adopting the German pronunciation of an initial s as "z") - I just went back to listen to the original cast, the film, and the Lane/Prince revival, and none of them do it that way, which only adds to the misconception/confusion about the phrase. |
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| Second Hand Rose from Second avenue......NU? | |
| Posted by: champagnesalesman 09:47 pm EDT 08/02/20 | |
| In reply to: re: i've always assumed it was "so new?" and it always made sense that way - Chromolume 07:25 pm EDT 08/02/20 | |
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| Streisand singing that in the FUNNY GIRL movie was my introduction to that word(I saw the GUYS AND DOLLS movie later) Unlike words like SCHLEPP and KLUTZ and so many others that everyone knows...NU is a Yiddish word of a time It is true Anne Bancroft and Kaye Ballard were Italians who often played(convincingly)Jewish mothers. Sometimes it happened the other way around..Lainie Kazan did the BIG FAT GREEK WEDDING movies. But sometimes Jewish authenticity can't be faked. I believe Carol Burnett rejected FUNNY GIRL and said "you need a Jewish girl for this part you need that quality" You can't cast a non-Latin in a Latin role today without a scandal...but we still see Shiksas playing Jewish women. I remember Blythe Danner in the movie of BRIGHTON BEACH MEMOIRS...so wrong. But then years later she played Ruth Madoff..much better I think because she was older. Similarly Glenn Close, the ultimate WASP goddess played a NY Jewish woman in a 2014 film called 5 TO 7 and somehow she pulled it off. |
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| But isn't Judaism a religion, not a race? | |
| Posted by: KingSpeed 06:34 am EDT 08/03/20 | |
| In reply to: Second Hand Rose from Second avenue......NU? - champagnesalesman 09:47 pm EDT 08/02/20 | |
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| I could be Jewish tomorrow if I wanted to be, right? | |
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| re: But isn't Judaism a religion, not a race? | |
| Posted by: Snowysdad 02:31 pm EDT 08/03/20 | |
| In reply to: But isn't Judaism a religion, not a race? - KingSpeed 06:34 am EDT 08/03/20 | |
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| Nope!! Judaism is the only religion that I know of that doesn't proselytize. The first time you approach someone, say a Rabbi and say I want to convert, the prescribed answer is no, ditto the second time. You are required to request studying to convert three times minimum before you are allowed to begin. Then it is a long studious road to actually becoming a convert. You or anyone else is always welcome to participate in Jewish life by just showing up and being amongst us (do I have to say I am one?), most of us believe the sin of Sodom and Gomorrah was not sexual but the in-hospitality to the strangers. |
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| re: But isn't Judaism a religion, not a race? | |
| Posted by: ryhog 04:43 pm EDT 08/03/20 | |
| In reply to: re: But isn't Judaism a religion, not a race? - Snowysdad 02:31 pm EDT 08/03/20 | |
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| and I am left to ponder a Jewish child named snowy... | |
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| re: But isn't Judaism a religion, not a race? | |
| Posted by: whereismikeyfl 12:45 pm EDT 08/03/20 | |
| In reply to: But isn't Judaism a religion, not a race? - KingSpeed 06:34 am EDT 08/03/20 | |
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| "I could be Jewish tomorrow if I wanted to be, right?" Actually, no. The conversion process takes more than a day. |
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| re: But isn't Judaism a religion, not a race? | |
| Posted by: showtunetrivia 12:44 am EDT 08/06/20 | |
| In reply to: re: But isn't Judaism a religion, not a race? - whereismikeyfl 12:45 pm EDT 08/03/20 | |
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| Yup. I can confirm that. I converted over 40 years ago. Laura |
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| re: But isn't Judaism a religion, not a race? | |
| Posted by: champagnesalesman 09:38 am EDT 08/03/20 | |
| In reply to: But isn't Judaism a religion, not a race? - KingSpeed 06:34 am EDT 08/03/20 | |
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| You might already be...I haven't seen you naked :) it is a religion yes but it is more about ethnicity and culture...most Jews I know are not religious but they identify with the background |
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