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re: i've always assumed it was "so new?" and it always made sense that way
Posted by: Chazwaza 04:36 am EDT 08/04/20
In reply to: re: i've always assumed it was "so new?" and it always made sense that way - whereismikeyfl 06:15 pm EDT 08/03/20

You are working on the false pretense that for something like this to have been written to come out of the mouth of a fictional character it would have to be an established idiom or common expression. This is hardly true. And it wouldn't have to be true for this lyric if it had been written as "so new?" So your mocking of the idea that people heard it this way and that it was accepted by them is pretty pointless.

The only two points you have are that the lyrics as written is "so nu" no "so new", and that you cannot find proof of anyone saying "so new?" as an expression. But there is really no point to be made on how no one could hear it as "so new?", beyond the fact that I'd wager the vast majority of people who ever heard the lyric heard it as "so new?" whether it made sense to them or not; and there's no point to be made that it doesn't make sense because it wasn't a common expression. It made sense to my ear and other people's... furthermore, especially when you hear something for the first time as a young person (or a person who doesn't have a lifetime of study to feel they have a grasp on what people ever did say anywhere ever or not), you hear something like this and despite it not being something you've heard or would say, you just take it as a thing people have or used to or could have said, or just as a thing this character would say.
My first exposure to this song was when I was probably 10... I've never been in this show or worked on it so I never had reason to look up the lyrics I thought I knew because the lyrics are all pretty straight-forward and easy to hear and words I know. I had no idea what half the things they sing in "Fugue for Tin Horns" meant but I also assumed it made sense and I made sense of it in the context.

If you are one of the people in this thread who just cannot fathom a character with a jewish-new yorker-comedic way of talking saying "I'm just a no-good-nick. So new?" and having it make sense to anyone ... then i don't know what to tell you. It does. It doesn't have to be the lyric written to be confused for the lyric, and it makes sense even if it's not something "people say".
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