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| Last Edit: Chromolume 02:02 am EDT 08/07/20 | |
| Posted by: Chromolume 01:53 am EDT 08/07/20 | |
| In reply to: re: CAMELOT - lordofspeech 10:18 pm EDT 08/04/20 | |
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| I've seen that done. But Pellinore (or, cloyingly, "Pelly") was still this annoying, twee, boring nebbish with a dog. What I've never ever understood is why Arthur would want to hang around with this bore. (Also, though the director was a good friend of mine and I thought much of her work on the show was very good, I still was made to have the impression that Merlin became Pellinore, which I don't think works.) |
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| re: CAMELOT | |
| Posted by: Michael_Portantiere 02:04 pm EDT 08/07/20 | |
| In reply to: re: CAMELOT - Chromolume 01:53 am EDT 08/07/20 | |
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| I think Pellinore is completely unwatchable and unplayable as a character, regardless of the talents of whoever is cast in the role. As for Merlin, even that role is not well written, for what little he's given to do, exiting about 15 or 20 minutes into the show and never being heard from again. Except -- we do hear from him again when Arthur quotes him, and the quote is such a horribly misogynistic Alan Jay Lernerism that it makes us hate Merlin retroactively: "Merlin told me once, never be too concerned if you don't know what a woman is thinking, they don't to it often." I really don't expect to hear that line retained in any future productions of CAMELOT! |
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| re: CAMELOT | |
| Posted by: Chromolume 02:56 pm EDT 08/07/20 | |
| In reply to: re: CAMELOT - Michael_Portantiere 02:04 pm EDT 08/07/20 | |
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| I forgot about that line. Yeah. that doesn't play at all anymore, even if Lerner meant (or hoped) that it would be taken with a bit of humor (no matter his own personal views on women). Is Pellinore actually supposed to be a stand-in for Pickering? The idea that the lead *needs* a sidekick of sorts? (Even Tommy has Jeff, though Jeff - and Pickering - are much more interesting characters.) Maybe they were wrong in assuming Arthur needed that. |
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| re: CAMELOT | |
| Posted by: Michael_Portantiere 12:55 am EDT 08/08/20 | |
| In reply to: re: CAMELOT - Chromolume 02:56 pm EDT 08/07/20 | |
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| "Is Pellinore actually supposed to be a stand-in for Pickering? The idea that the lead *needs* a sidekick of sorts? " I suppose that might have been what they were thinking -- especially if we consider that the same actor originated both roles :-) |
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| re: CAMELOT | |
| Posted by: Erik_Haagensen 03:38 pm EDT 08/07/20 | |
| In reply to: re: CAMELOT - Chromolume 02:56 pm EDT 08/07/20 | |
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| Lerner rewrote that line for the 1980 revival. He tried several variants and ultimately replaced it with "But no matter. Merlyn said to me once, 'Never ask a woman what she is thinking. She may tell you.' But what do you do while you’re wondering?" | |
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| re: CAMELOT | |
| Posted by: Michael_Portantiere 01:50 pm EDT 08/08/20 | |
| In reply to: re: CAMELOT - Erik_Haagensen 03:38 pm EDT 08/07/20 | |
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| Thank you, Erik. I did see the 1980 revival with Burton, but I didn't remember that the line in question had been rewritten. I can certainly understand why it was :-) | |
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