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re: Guinevere - Likable
Posted by: larry13 08:26 pm EDT 08/10/20
In reply to: re: Guinevere - Likable - Chromolume 04:51 pm EDT 08/10/20

I wasn't aware the lyric was changed. Do you know when or anything more about what it was changed to?
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re: Guinevere - Likable
Posted by: Michael_Portantiere 09:26 pm EDT 08/10/20
In reply to: re: Guinevere - Likable - larry13 08:26 pm EDT 08/10/20

I'm almost certain that the lyrics in "Epiphany" were changed FROM a repeat of "Tell you why, Mrs. Lovett, tell you why" TO "Even you, Mrs. Lovett, even I." The former version is on the original cast album, and I believe I've heard the latter in every production since then.
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re: Guinevere - Likable
Posted by: Chromolume 11:29 pm EDT 08/10/20
In reply to: re: Guinevere - Likable - Michael_Portantiere 09:26 pm EDT 08/10/20

I think you may be right after all. I was sure it was the other way around, but looking back at some sources now, it does seem that the repeat came first. Thanks for the correction. ;-)
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re: Guinevere - Likable
Posted by: larry13 09:43 pm EDT 08/10/20
In reply to: re: Guinevere - Likable - Michael_Portantiere 09:26 pm EDT 08/10/20

Thank you. I'm not able to access my OBC recording as quickly as I can FINISHING THE HAT. There on p. 355 are BOTH the lyrics you cite, in the order you cite, separated by several other lines of the song.
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re: Guinevere - Likable
Posted by: Michael_Portantiere 11:59 pm EDT 08/10/20
In reply to: re: Guinevere - Likable - larry13 09:43 pm EDT 08/10/20

Thanks. On the OBC album, there's definitely a repeat of "Tell you why, Mrs. Lovett, tell you why." Every time I hear that, I wonder when the repeat was changed to the other lyrics. I don't remember for sure what's in the tour video with Hearn and Lansbury, will have to check :-)
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re: Guinevere - Likable
Posted by: Chromolume 12:48 am EDT 08/11/20
In reply to: re: Guinevere - Likable - Michael_Portantiere 11:59 pm EDT 08/10/20

In the manuscript conductor's score, the lyric was changed to "even you/even I." But the copyists' marks on the first page date the score of that song to 2 months after the opening. So it may have happened then? (That was part of my mistake - I always thought that score had existed earlier - but seeing that date change made me think.) Usually such a change would be marked with a revision date, but there's no such indication in this score.

The original *published* version of the script has the repeat of "tell you why" - I don't know if that was changed in subsequent printings.

There is a youtube performance with Cariou (which I had actually never known about, and will now have to watch) and he does repeat "Tell you why" in that. I haven't checked the Hearn video.
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re: Guinevere - Likable
Posted by: Michael_Portantiere 11:03 am EDT 08/11/20
In reply to: re: Guinevere - Likable - Chromolume 12:48 am EDT 08/11/20

Hi, I just checked the video, and Hearn sings the "tell you why" repeat.
Link SWEENEY TODD, "Epiphany" -- George Hearn
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