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| re: Randy Rainbow’s old, racist, and transphobic tweets resurface - tiresome | |
| Posted by: Pokernight 10:36 pm EDT 08/18/20 | |
| In reply to: re: Randy Rainbow’s old, racist, and transphobic tweets resurface - Billhaven 09:19 pm EDT 08/18/20 | |
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| I'm not sure being a covid shut--in isn't making me hyper-sensitive, but dragging up the use of a word that was once used and is now considered offensive to malign an extremely creative individual doesn't set well with me. Moreover, the fact that people were praising insurance commercials because a diva who can't give concerts anymore and is now reduced to making one of these offensive attacks on our senses .........it's too much. I hate commercials. I hate insurance commercials even more. I know they give employment to actors, but somewhere someone is racking up a bunch of sold souls. It's a pity that talented people sink to that level, but I KNOW -- They need the WORK. A conundrum, to be sure. I expect to be attacked. | |
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| re: Randy Rainbow’s old, racist, and transphobic tweets resurface - tiresome | |
| Posted by: StageLover 02:23 pm EDT 08/19/20 | |
| In reply to: re: Randy Rainbow’s old, racist, and transphobic tweets resurface - tiresome - Pokernight 10:36 pm EDT 08/18/20 | |
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| The discussion about the Idina Menzel commercial was too much to handle? An attack on our senses? Really? |
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| re: Randy Rainbow’s old, racist, and transphobic tweets resurface - tiresome | |
| Posted by: Pokernight 03:52 pm EDT 08/19/20 | |
| In reply to: re: Randy Rainbow’s old, racist, and transphobic tweets resurface - tiresome - StageLover 02:23 pm EDT 08/19/20 | |
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| That's what you got? Insurance company commercials are an attack on MY senses.....all commercials are. |
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| re: Randy Rainbow’s old, racist, and transphobic tweets resurface - tiresome | |
| Posted by: Chromolume 04:01 pm EDT 08/19/20 | |
| In reply to: re: Randy Rainbow’s old, racist, and transphobic tweets resurface - tiresome - Pokernight 03:52 pm EDT 08/19/20 | |
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| I'll gladly take the Idina commercial over the new Progressive one where they're singing (badly) "Danny Boy." Ugh. | |
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| re: Randy Rainbow’s old, racist, and transphobic tweets resurface - tiresome | |
| Posted by: MockingbirdGirl 11:09 pm EDT 08/18/20 | |
| In reply to: re: Randy Rainbow’s old, racist, and transphobic tweets resurface - tiresome - Pokernight 10:36 pm EDT 08/18/20 | |
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| Moreover, the fact that people were praising insurance commercials because a diva who can't give concerts anymore and is now reduced to making one of these offensive attacks on our senses Yeah, that was me. I said that it was "pretty funny." Sorry for the offending your sensibilities with my effusive praise. Consider yourself "attacked," I guess. |
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| re: Randy Rainbow’s old, racist, and transphobic tweets resurface - tiresome | |
| Posted by: Zelgo 08:48 am EDT 08/19/20 | |
| In reply to: re: Randy Rainbow’s old, racist, and transphobic tweets resurface - tiresome - MockingbirdGirl 11:09 pm EDT 08/18/20 | |
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| The way I look at this is ask the simple question: Does Randy Rainbow hate trans people and minorities? Does his body of work point to degrading them somehow? No. Let's move on from this idiocy. |
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| re: Randy Rainbow’s old, racist, and transphobic tweets resurface - tiresome | |
| Posted by: Ncassidine 08:55 am EDT 08/19/20 | |
| In reply to: re: Randy Rainbow’s old, racist, and transphobic tweets resurface - tiresome - Zelgo 08:48 am EDT 08/19/20 | |
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| People don't have to move on. They can unfollow him if they want and encourage other people to do so. | |
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| re: Randy Rainbow’s old, racist, and transphobic tweets resurface - tiresome | |
| Posted by: Zelgo 11:04 am EDT 08/19/20 | |
| In reply to: re: Randy Rainbow’s old, racist, and transphobic tweets resurface - tiresome - Ncassidine 08:55 am EDT 08/19/20 | |
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| Sure, they can also perform the Dance of the Seven Veils, naked, in a vat of jello. But do you really want to play into the game of divide and conquer? Do you really want to condemn people for something said 10 years ago while trying to be funny because they weren't a "woke" as you imagined you were at that time? If you do, I assure you, when you're done, you will have cancelled everyone around you. |
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| re: Randy Rainbow’s old, racist, and transphobic tweets resurface - tiresome | |
| Posted by: Michael_Portantiere 02:18 pm EDT 08/19/20 | |
| In reply to: re: Randy Rainbow’s old, racist, and transphobic tweets resurface - tiresome - Zelgo 11:04 am EDT 08/19/20 | |
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| "Do you really want to condemn people for something said 10 years ago while trying to be funny because they weren't as 'woke' as you imagined you were at that time? If you do, I assure you, when you're done, you will have cancelled everyone around you." Not only that, but if they were to be totally honest, some of these people would also have to cancel themselves -- because I'd be willing to bet that at least some of them used the same words before those words were generally considered offensive, even though they may not remember doing so, or do remember but would never admit it. |
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| re: Randy Rainbow’s old, racist, and transphobic tweets resurface - tiresome | |
| Posted by: peter3053 04:24 pm EDT 08/19/20 | |
| In reply to: re: Randy Rainbow’s old, racist, and transphobic tweets resurface - tiresome - Michael_Portantiere 02:18 pm EDT 08/19/20 | |
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| Quite so. Such extremists tend to have big blind spots about their own failings both past and present. As it said in one of the gospels, "First take the plank out of your own eye before you try to take a splinter out of someone else's." I often remember that before taking a swipe at someone else's apparent weaknesses. It doesn't mean not trying to improve my thoughts and language about, and actions towards, others, but it does act as a force to counter being quick to condemn, or indeed, "cancel". Which reminds me how important theatre has been as a civilizing force - being in a room with characters of different perspectives for two hours, where good playwrights find ways to make us see things one way and then another, and also see the foibles and failings that go with humans who hold those views. Hammerstein held that theatre should send the "big black giant" of the audience out "a nicer giant" than when they came in. South Pacific is a good example of that. I remember how people criticized it for years as being racist, and said it could never be revived, and then when they saw it again, they realized it was completely the reverse. I heard someone say just recently "Oh, how terrible - Liat doesn't even get to speak!" - yes, but not for racist reasons - it's because she doesn't speak English and because the writers needed to dramatize her as different in order to highlight more clearly Cable's failure. Nellie's final breakthrough definitely fulfils Hammerstein's mission of theatre - but there was a while when the show was, effectively, "canceled" because of planks in eyes. |
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| re: Randy Rainbow’s old, racist, and transphobic tweets resurface - tiresome | |
| Posted by: Michael_Portantiere 04:37 pm EDT 08/19/20 | |
| In reply to: re: Randy Rainbow’s old, racist, and transphobic tweets resurface - tiresome - peter3053 04:24 pm EDT 08/19/20 | |
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| All very well put, peter3053. | |
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