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| re: Randy Rainbow’s old, racist, and transphobic tweets resurface | |
| Posted by: WaymanWong 02:16 am EDT 08/20/20 | |
| In reply to: Randy Rainbow’s old, racist, and transphobic tweets resurface - pecansforall 08:26 pm EDT 08/18/20 | |
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| Link | LGBTQ Nation: Randy Rainbow's racist & transphobic tweets resurface. And there are dozens |
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| Posted this in the wrong place. It was meant to be in reply to the OP's initial post. | |
| Last Edit: AlanScott 02:51 pm EDT 08/20/20 | |
| Posted by: AlanScott 02:50 pm EDT 08/20/20 | |
| In reply to: re: Randy Rainbow’s old, racist, and transphobic tweets resurface - WaymanWong 02:16 am EDT 08/20/20 | |
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| I'll start by saying that I've watched and/or listened to only a couple of RR's parodies. The ones I saw or heard didn't strike me as particularly clever or well-done. Not awful but not great. And without wanting to get overly political, I should also say that I feel DT is a delusional egomaniac, a sociopath, a coward, a bully, a compulsive liar, a hypocrite, a thief, and a sexual predator. I could list more things but I'll leave it there. So I'm in agreement with RR's political point of view. I also have been upset for years now by what has come to be known as "cancel culture." I'm a fervent First Amendment absolutist. I think those on the left who try to censor people do themselves and the entire left wing of the country (and the country as a whole) a great disservice. With all that as preface, I found the things I read yesterday on the page linked by the OP to be pretty appalling. I really don't think there's much excuse for the things RR posted that are quoted there. And it's not like he was saying these things privately. I'm sure pretty much everyone has said things privately that they wouldn't want to be made public. I certainly have. On the other hand (since the word I'm bringing up has been discussed in this thread), I will mention that until yesterday, when I typed the word in a discussion about this story, I don't think I had ever written or typed or said the word tranny. It's not that I'm so woke. I don't even claim that I've been especially sensitive to the issues and the oppression faced by the trans community and trans individuals. It's just so clearly a negative word, and I think that's always been clear to me. Even if Ru Paul uses it. One more thing: If I ever leave Manhattan or my current apartment, my main priority in choosing someplace new to live will be a place where I have to deal with less noise. The amount of noise where I live is maddening. I'm very sympathetic to people who find noise where they live to be disturbing. And I found his "black noise" comment hugely offensive. Not funny. At all. Again, none of us, including (perhaps especially) me, is perfect, but he said these things in a very public forum. It doesn't seem like he said them in order to mock the attitudes expressed. He should apologize. If you like his work and you want to watch any new videos from him (or rewatch old ones), I don't think that means that you endorse the attitudes he expressed. As for me, I didn't watch more than a couple of his videos, and I don't feel the need to watch any new ones he may produce. If I'd been a fan, perhaps I'd be more forgiving. |
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| Oh, wow, this only gets worse | |
| Posted by: Singapore/Fling 01:26 pm EDT 08/20/20 | |
| In reply to: re: Randy Rainbow’s old, racist, and transphobic tweets resurface - WaymanWong 02:16 am EDT 08/20/20 | |
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| Adding Mexican and Asian jokes to the mix, hitting the usual roster of denigrating Asian men's penises and calling Mexicans tiny, plus some truly Trump worthy comments calling Latinx people criminals. This is turning into a trainwreck. And yes, these jokes were offensive and wrong in 2010 - that was just ten years ago, and people knew better. | |
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| re: Oh, wow, this only gets worse | |
| Last Edit: WaymanWong 04:14 pm EDT 08/20/20 | |
| Posted by: WaymanWong 04:13 pm EDT 08/20/20 | |
| In reply to: Oh, wow, this only gets worse - Singapore/Fling 01:26 pm EDT 08/20/20 | |
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| Another Asian ''joke'' from the Randy Rainbow collection of tweets: ''Called a guy who bumped into me this morning an asshole and now I feel bad cuz I think he might have been a dickhead. Or Asian.'' |
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| re: Oh, wow, this only gets worse | |
| Posted by: Singapore/Fling 05:01 pm EDT 08/20/20 | |
| In reply to: re: Oh, wow, this only gets worse - WaymanWong 04:13 pm EDT 08/20/20 | |
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| Appalling. And noticeable that people who were defending his Transphobic remarks are not engaging whatsoever with these racist tweets. | |
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| re: Oh, wow, this only gets worse | |
| Posted by: Michael_Portantiere 12:23 pm EDT 08/21/20 | |
| In reply to: re: Oh, wow, this only gets worse - Singapore/Fling 05:01 pm EDT 08/20/20 | |
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| ''Called a guy who bumped into me this morning an asshole and now I feel bad cuz I think he might have been a dickhead. Or Asian." I'm not sure how anyone could attempt to defend this "joke." |
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| Here's what I can't understand... | |
| Last Edit: GrumpyMorningBoy 01:44 pm EDT 08/20/20 | |
| Posted by: GrumpyMorningBoy 01:35 pm EDT 08/20/20 | |
| In reply to: Oh, wow, this only gets worse - Singapore/Fling 01:26 pm EDT 08/20/20 | |
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| It's one thing when you're trying to gain fame by saying outlandish things in the hopes that you'll gain attention. It's quite another when you're so famous that you're nominated for Emmy Awards and being invited as a guest on mainstream news and entertainment shows. The fact that Randy Rainbow made it this far without thinking that perhaps it was time to revisit the things he'd said and -- gosh, at minimum, DELETE THEM, but better, APOLOGIZE for them -- makes me feel extra cynical about whether liberals are any less capable than conservatives of claiming political positions merely because it's what their audience would pay to hear. We know full well that these were the accusations we leveled at people like Glenn Beck back in the day, or might even say of someone like Rush Limbaugh today. "They can't possibly believe this stuff... they must just know that this is what their paying audience wants to hear." When tweets like these come to light, how are we not supposed to view Randy Rainbow's anti-Trump sentiments through an equally cynical lens? What does this guy ACTUALLY believe about people of color, women, and trans folks? It's just horribly dispiriting. It's very tempting to believe that liberals who find a mass audience are truly opposed to racism, sexism, and homophobia. But maybe we shoudln't be so sunny about it all. Entertainers want to pay the bills just like everyone else. - GMB |
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| re: Here's what I can't understand... | |
| Posted by: Singapore/Fling 01:48 pm EDT 08/20/20 | |
| In reply to: Here's what I can't understand... - GrumpyMorningBoy 01:35 pm EDT 08/20/20 | |
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| A hundred percent! I'm baffled he didn't delete these years ago, but more importantly, his response so far is to paint himself as the victim of unfairness - another Trump quality - which suggests that he doesn't see anything wrong with these comments. | |
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