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is there anything in WSS that says they are or need to be under 18?
Posted by: Chazwaza 01:07 pm EDT 08/20/20
In reply to: re: Dear Evan Hansen Film Casting - Michael_Portantiere 12:02 pm EDT 08/20/20

I think it works fine with the audience assuming they are between 17-23, and i don't think there's anything in the film that ages them below that. WSS is not set in a high school with high schooler students, like DEH. (and no, i don't think the Dance at the Gym tells us they are high school age - that is a community space, I never took it as organized by or for high school students specifically).

Maybe my memory betrays me. But i do think they are different in terms of how weird it would look to have people in their mid-20s playing the characters.
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re: is there anything in WSS that says they are or need to be under 18?
Posted by: Michael_Portantiere 10:16 pm EDT 08/20/20
In reply to: is there anything in WSS that says they are or need to be under 18? - Chazwaza 01:07 pm EDT 08/20/20

"I think it works fine with the audience assuming they are between 17-23, and i don't think there's anything in the film that ages them below that. WSS is not set in a high school with high schooler students, like DEH. (and no, i don't think the Dance at the Gym tells us they are high school age - that is a community space, I never took it as organized by or for high school students specifically). "

Well, that is a good point. I guess I've always thought of the main WSS character, or most of them, as teenagers. But I suppose you're right that there's no reason why some or all of them can't be at least a little bit older, and I imagine it's likely that some members of actual gangs at the time were in their early 20s.

On the other hand, GREASE is definitely supposed to be about high school kids, and the actors in that movie were pretty far removed from that in terms of age.
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re: is there anything in WSS that says they are or need to be under 18?
Posted by: Chazwaza 10:42 pm EDT 08/20/20
In reply to: re: is there anything in WSS that says they are or need to be under 18? - Michael_Portantiere 10:16 pm EDT 08/20/20

For sure. I am no expect on gangs of the 50s in NYC, but I think it's safe to say gangs are/were by no means just for teenagers, and you don't just leave a gang or "gang life" when you turn 18 or 21. In the most wholesome way, the gang is probably a family to most of these guys, part of their community too, in another sense they may not have options or interest in leaving the gang, and in other senses they may not be allowed to. I have no idea how the Jets work. But maybe it's because my first exposure to WSS was the film, I never assumed they were in High School because they don't look like they are.
But more than anything, the way they act with and toward the Girls always made me think they were mostly 18-24.
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re: is there anything in WSS that says they are or need to be under 18?
Posted by: Michael_Portantiere 12:20 pm EDT 08/21/20
In reply to: re: is there anything in WSS that says they are or need to be under 18? - Chazwaza 10:42 pm EDT 08/20/20

"I am no expect on gangs of the 50s in NYC, but I think it's safe to say gangs are/were by no means just for teenagers, and you don't just leave a gang or "gang life" when you turn 18 or 21. In the most wholesome way, the gang is probably a family to most of these guys, part of their community too, in another sense they may not have options or interest in leaving the gang, and in other senses they may not be allowed to. I have no idea how the Jets work. But maybe it's because my first exposure to WSS was the film, I never assumed they were in High School because they don't look like they are. But more than anything, the way they act with and toward the Girls always made me think they were mostly 18-24."

Yes, again very good points. That said, I guess I'm thinking that, generally speaking, gang members tended (and maybe still tend) to be on the younger side because at least some kids who are in gangs when they're in high school (or are high-school aged) might have to cease being active members when they get a little older because they have to get jobs, so they have less time gang membership. (This is part of the reason why, in WSS, Tony leaves the Jets.) But again, I'm sure you're right that there was still a significant percentage of people beyond high school age in gangs.
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