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| re: Ragtime... for our time | |
| Posted by: showtunesoprano 12:17 pm EDT 08/27/20 | |
| In reply to: re: Ragtime... for our time - manchurch03104 07:56 am EDT 08/27/20 | |
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| Is it "white privilege" to be unaware of violence being perpetrated on Black Americans by law enforcement, and vigilantes? I suppose, though I would call it something like "white blindness" or "white ignorance" rather than "white privilege." What Ahrens was saying was that in 1998, white Americans were not aware of this kind of treatment. Therefor, the show depicted a time in the past, with characters/actions that no longer seemed present. In the past 20 years, the advent of cell phones/cameras and social media has shown us that, in fact, "this will happen again, and again, and again" and is still happening. It makes the show more relevant, not less. I was listening to the cast album while driving a few years ago after one of these horrific incidents, and almost had to pull the car over because it was devastating to hear that lyric. | |
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| re: Ragtime... for our time | |
| Posted by: whereismikeyfl 02:41 pm EDT 08/27/20 | |
| In reply to: re: Ragtime... for our time - showtunesoprano 12:17 pm EDT 08/27/20 | |
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| The "blindness" is the privilege. A black person cannot be blind in a similar way without facing danger. A white person faces no danger if he or she is blind--they have the privilege of ignoring certain realities. I think your judgement of Ahrens is much more harsh than calling her comments "classic white privilege." If she indeed "was saying was that in 1998, white Americans were not aware of this kind of treatment. Therefor, the show depicted a time in the past, with characters/actions that no longer seemed present," then she is stating that her work was for white audiences and excluded the perspective of black people. If you really believe that, it is a pretty awful accusation. I am more generous and think it was only classic white privilege and not something more disturbing. |
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| re: Ragtime... for our time | |
| Posted by: showtunesoprano 04:19 pm EDT 08/27/20 | |
| In reply to: re: Ragtime... for our time - whereismikeyfl 02:41 pm EDT 08/27/20 | |
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| I said no such thing, and she said no such thing. Do not put words in our mouths. I was merely trying to understand/interpret how her statement was "classic white privilege" since that accusation did not seem valid to me. But I can agree that blindness=privilege, so I understand it now. And I believe I expanded on her original statement quite accurately, considering I did watch the original source. | |
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| Last Edit: whereismikeyfl 07:58 am EDT 08/28/20 | |
| Posted by: whereismikeyfl 07:57 am EDT 08/28/20 | |
| In reply to: re: Ragtime... for our time - showtunesoprano 04:19 pm EDT 08/27/20 | |
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