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| re: Pavarotti widow asked in 2016 for Trump to stop using "Nessun dorma" at rallies | |
| Posted by: GValley 10:28 am EDT 08/28/20 | |
| In reply to: Pavarotti widow asked in 2016 for Trump to stop using "Nessun dorma" at rallies - singleticket 08:57 am EDT 08/28/20 | |
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| So if you only believe in Socialism and Marxism are you allowed to have that aria performed. Free speech and tolerance....only if you agree...otherwise shut it down? | |
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| The concept of copyright is totally foreign to you, isn't it. | |
| Posted by: MockingbirdGirl 04:47 pm EDT 08/28/20 | |
| In reply to: re: Pavarotti widow asked in 2016 for Trump to stop using "Nessun dorma" at rallies - GValley 10:28 am EDT 08/28/20 | |
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| Sad. Bigly. | |
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| Hallelujah! | |
| Posted by: Singapore/Fling 04:08 pm EDT 08/29/20 | |
| In reply to: The concept of copyright is totally foreign to you, isn't it. - MockingbirdGirl 04:47 pm EDT 08/28/20 | |
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| The Cohen Estate is preparing to sue | |
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| Cohen's estate: We specifically denied GOP request to use 'Hallelujah' | |
| Posted by: WaymanWong 08:09 pm EDT 08/29/20 | |
| In reply to: Hallelujah! - Singapore/Fling 04:08 pm EDT 08/29/20 | |
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| Link | Huffington Post: Leonard Cohen's Estate Slams GOP for Using 'Hallelujah' at RNC |
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| re: The concept of copyright is totally foreign to you, isn't it. | |
| Posted by: comedywest 05:02 pm EDT 08/28/20 | |
| In reply to: The concept of copyright is totally foreign to you, isn't it. - MockingbirdGirl 04:47 pm EDT 08/28/20 | |
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| But if the Puccini estate were to give the rights to use it, I would have no problem with a Trump supporter singing it...like say Ted Nugent, Kid Rock or Kanye. | |
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| re: Pavarotti widow asked in 2016 for Trump to stop using "Nessun dorma" at rallies | |
| Posted by: whereismikeyfl 02:41 pm EDT 08/28/20 | |
| In reply to: re: Pavarotti widow asked in 2016 for Trump to stop using "Nessun dorma" at rallies - GValley 10:28 am EDT 08/28/20 | |
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| The widow is exercising free speech. An artist (or his heirs) cannot be forced to have his expression used in a way he (or they) disapprove of. If the widow only wants serial killers or circus clowns to have the right to use the recording, she can. Free speech guarantees her right to free expression---or silence if she chooses. This is a pretty basic American---and capitalist--value. But with so many people knocking American values and capitalism I am not surprised that someone objects to the concept intellectual/artistic property. I am surprised to see someone arguing against free speech while claiming to argue for it. That was a pretty neat trick. |
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| re: Pavarotti widow asked in 2016 for Trump to stop using "Nessun dorma" at rallies | |
| Posted by: Singapore/Fling 01:07 pm EDT 08/28/20 | |
| In reply to: re: Pavarotti widow asked in 2016 for Trump to stop using "Nessun dorma" at rallies - GValley 10:28 am EDT 08/28/20 | |
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| So we're at the point where believing in the rule of law has become the same as believing in Socialism *and* Marxism (which are not the same thing). Considering that the Right Wing propaganda news media is now celebrating a teenage murderer and encouraging Americans to actively take up arms against protesters, I'm not surprised to see such a wildly deranged point of view. | |
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| re: Pavarotti widow asked in 2016 for Trump to stop using "Nessun dorma" at rallies | |
| Posted by: ryhog 11:22 am EDT 08/28/20 | |
| In reply to: re: Pavarotti widow asked in 2016 for Trump to stop using "Nessun dorma" at rallies - GValley 10:28 am EDT 08/28/20 | |
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| Two points: 1. Being anti-fascist does not equate with socialism and marxism. 2. Pavorotti (and his family) lived through Mussolini. They knew and know a thing or two about fascism that perhaps you don't. |
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| re: Pavarotti widow asked in 2016 for Trump to stop using "Nessun dorma" at rallies | |
| Last Edit: singleticket 10:51 am EDT 08/28/20 | |
| Posted by: singleticket 10:48 am EDT 08/28/20 | |
| In reply to: re: Pavarotti widow asked in 2016 for Trump to stop using "Nessun dorma" at rallies - GValley 10:28 am EDT 08/28/20 | |
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| ...otherwise shut it down? No, I'm more of a protest and boycott rather than shut down, burn down or shoot to kill kind of Socialist and Marxist. |
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| re: Nessun dorma is not in Public Domain | |
| Posted by: NewtonUK 10:52 am EDT 08/28/20 | |
| In reply to: re: Pavarotti widow asked in 2016 for Trump to stop using "Nessun dorma" at rallies - singleticket 10:48 am EDT 08/28/20 | |
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| Nessun Dorma is still copyright protected, so that the Puccini estate could forbid its use. The earliest that copyright would expire on this work is April 2022 - depends on when copyright was filed. Research said 2024. You can't use the recording without permission of copyright holder of recording. You can't hire some right wing tenor to sing it at a Trump rally, without getting a license from the Puccini estate. | |
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