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| re: 'She Loves Me' and 'to my amazement ...' | |
| Posted by: JereNYC (JereNYC@aol.com) 01:16 pm EDT 08/31/20 | |
| In reply to: re: 'She Loves Me' and 'to my amazement ...' - WaymanWong 01:43 am EDT 08/29/20 | |
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| And Ron Holgate's was the very definition of a featured performance, although I sometimes wish that the Tonys had separate categories for performances that make an impact in one or two scenes versus performances that are also considered featured, but are featured throughout the show. I have no idea what you'd call such a role though...maybe a Cameo? Best Performance in a Cameo Role? In the case of 1776, it's hard for me to justify that an actor playing Richard Henry Lee, who appears essentially in one scene and has one song (though he returns toward the end for a couple of lines, a return that has huge importance in the story, but which doesn't actually ask the actor to do much except deliver a handful of lines or less) would be competing for that Featured nomination with actors playing Jefferson, Franklin, Dickinson, and Rutledge, characters that feature throughout the show. Of course, Lee gets the showiest, most show off-iness, most fun, and most funny song in the entire show, so I'm sure that clinched it for Holgate. |
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| re: 'She Loves Me' and 'to my amazement ...' | |
| Posted by: EvFoDr 03:06 pm EDT 08/31/20 | |
| In reply to: re: 'She Loves Me' and 'to my amazement ...' - JereNYC 01:16 pm EDT 08/31/20 | |
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| I am thinking back to something from my youth...maybe the Soap Opera Digest awards...lol...where I am pretty sure they had a category for supporting and a category for featured. I don't recall the exact the defintion of each but the point was that one would be for someone who had just a scene or two, and one for someone who was a more consistent presence. In terms of the Tonys I think of Marilyn Cooper in Woman of the Year or Katie Finneran in Promises, Promises or Adrian Lennox in Doubt. Can you think of other examples? I think one reason the Tonys don't have seperate categories is that it isn't really all that frequently that someone wins a Tony for singing just one song, or having just a scene. |
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| re: 'She Loves Me' and 'to my amazement ...' | |
| Posted by: WaymanWong 02:23 pm EDT 08/31/20 | |
| In reply to: re: 'She Loves Me' and 'to my amazement ...' - JereNYC 01:16 pm EDT 08/31/20 | |
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| I'm kinda surprised that Howard Da Silva didn't score a Tony nomination in Featured for playing Franklin. That's a pretty funny and crowd-pleasing part. (Da Silva's also a past Featured Tony nominee for ''Fiorello!'') |
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| re: 'She Loves Me' and 'to my amazement ...' | |
| Last Edit: BroadwayTonyJ 03:22 pm EDT 08/31/20 | |
| Posted by: BroadwayTonyJ 03:18 pm EDT 08/31/20 | |
| In reply to: re: 'She Loves Me' and 'to my amazement ...' - WaymanWong 02:23 pm EDT 08/31/20 | |
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| I've always wondered about that also, because Da Silva received good notices for his performance and is great in the film version. It's my understanding that he suffered a mild heart attack on the morning of the Opening, 3/16/69. I assume he was then out of the show for at least a few weeks. He missed the recording of the cast album on 3/23/69. The date of the award show was 4/20/69. I wonder if the Tony Nominators had a chance to see him in the show. I really wish Sony would release the film soundtrack on CD so we can appreciate Da Silva's performance in the context of a recording. |
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| Da Silva, Daniels and the Tonys | |
| Last Edit: AlanScott 05:25 pm EDT 08/31/20 | |
| Posted by: AlanScott 05:20 pm EDT 08/31/20 | |
| In reply to: re: 'She Loves Me' and 'to my amazement ...' - BroadwayTonyJ 03:18 pm EDT 08/31/20 | |
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| Peter Hunt's memory was that Da Silva's heart attack was during a rehearsal on the afternoon of Thursday, April 13, 1969. Doctors came, but he refused to go to the hospital. He was determined to open the show. He played the four remaining previews and opening night, then he went to the hospital. The day after 1776 opened, the Tonys committee met to vote on the nominations. They all had seen Da Silva. It was a small committee in those days, and 1776 had invited them to previews. I think the reason Da Silva wasn't nominated was either because the committee had been told he was out of the show or because they really wanted Daniels to win, and Da Silva would have been his major competition had he been nominated. Despite what some think, I think Daniels would have had little chance of winning leading actor in a musical had he been in that category, and the committee was fairly certain of it. In the Variety poll of drama critics later that season, Orbach easily won with 9 votes, with Daniels and Jack Cassidy (for Maggie Flynn) tied in second place with 4 votes each, and with Herschel Bernardi (Zorbá) and Jay Garner (Red, White and Maddox) getting 1 vote each. Admittedly, the Variety poll results did not always align with the Tonys, not even when someone had a strong win in the poll. For example, Gwen Verdon in Sweet Charity easily won over Lansbury in Mame, with Verdon getting 7 votes, while Lansbury and Barbara Harris (Clear Day) got 3 each, and Diener (Man of La Mancha) got 1, but Lansbury won the Tony. But in 1969, I have virtually no question that Orbach would have won the Tony even if he'd been competing with Daniels. I've re-read the reviews recently, and while Daniels got very good reviews, they weren't like Orbach's. I would probably have voted for Daniels so I don't say this because I think Orbach should have won. (I saw them both, but I was 11 when I saw Daniela, and 12 when I saw Orbach.) The Tonys committee was, I think, in a quandary. They had five if not six strong candidates for the nomination since George M! had opened too late the previous season to be eligible for the 1968 awards (a late change in dates that caused George M! producer David Black to file a lawsuit against the Tonys). So there was Orbach, Grey, Bernardi, Cassidy, Daniels and Garner (not a chance to win, but he'd gotten very strong reviews and some attention). I'm pretty sure they thought they were doing Daniels a favor. He would easily win in "featured or supporting" (as it was called that season), and they felt he would not win in lead. As you know, they absolutely had discretion to ignore billing. They had done it before. Btw, Orbach had been below the title when Promises opened but he and O'Hara were raised above it shortly after the opening. |
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| Posted by: AlanScott 03:58 pm EDT 09/01/20 | |
| In reply to: Da Silva, Daniels and the Tonys - AlanScott 05:20 pm EDT 08/31/20 | |
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| April 13 should be March 13. Where did April come from? And I could swear that I changed Daniela to Daniels. I know that I saw it before I clicked to post. Maybe somehow it reverted. :) |
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| re: Da Silva, Daniels and the Tonys | |
| Posted by: WaymanWong 06:03 pm EDT 08/31/20 | |
| In reply to: Da Silva, Daniels and the Tonys - AlanScott 05:20 pm EDT 08/31/20 | |
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| Thanks, Alan, as always, for sharing your informative and insightful posts about the Tonys. If they asked you, you could write a book ... | |
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| re: Da Silva, Daniels and the Tonys | |
| Posted by: AlanScott 06:10 pm EDT 08/31/20 | |
| In reply to: re: Da Silva, Daniels and the Tonys - WaymanWong 06:03 pm EDT 08/31/20 | |
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| Thank you, Wayman. I should just write one myself, or at least do something with all this kind of info. I'm undisciplined. | |
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