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re: Samples of the Tony nominees (all plays) for Best Score
Posted by: writerkev 12:37 pm EST 11/16/20
In reply to: re: Samples of the Tony nominees (all plays) for Best Score - scoot1er 09:36 am EST 11/16/20

Why does this bug you? You say you wanted the category split between musicals and plays. Well, here you have a category that's only plays. That's sort of what you wanted, right?

Then you also seem to be saying that no score of a play could possibly be worthy of the award because there would need to be a "disclaimer." It sounds like you're saying that the requirements for the score of a play are not only "different" than that of a musical, but so much lesser as to make a best play score award ludicrous. I guess that could be an opinion. Is that what you're saying?
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Since score include lyrics for tony
Last Edit: dramedy 02:52 pm EST 11/16/20
Posted by: dramedy 02:51 pm EST 11/16/20
In reply to: re: Samples of the Tony nominees (all plays) for Best Score - writerkev 12:37 pm EST 11/16/20

I would argue it is lesser. Most play music ha some variation to the theme but that’s it. A musical score has a lot of elements including lyrics and background scoring as well as individual songs.

This year it should have been reserved especially since it was a huge slap in the face for lightning thief. I don’t think lightning thief deserved a tony and I don’t think these scores reach any level of a movie score which does sometimes have a very memorable theme as Williams has proved with jaws and close encounters and many others. You hear Star Wars theme and you instantly know the world you are entering. I can’t say that about any of these plays.
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re: Samples of the Tony nominees (all plays) for Best Score
Posted by: scoot1er 02:07 pm EST 11/16/20
In reply to: re: Samples of the Tony nominees (all plays) for Best Score - writerkev 12:37 pm EST 11/16/20

I never said that the requirements for a score for a play are lesser than the score for a musical. I said the requirements for both types of scores are different and it should be acknowledged that the award should be “best score for a play” and “best score for a musical.” I don’t understand how you thought that meant one was lesser.
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re: Samples of the Tony nominees (all plays) for Best Score
Last Edit: writerkev 03:58 pm EST 11/16/20
Posted by: writerkev 03:57 pm EST 11/16/20
In reply to: re: Samples of the Tony nominees (all plays) for Best Score - scoot1er 02:07 pm EST 11/16/20

Why would you need a disclaimer on this year's awards if it isn't understood to be lesser?

In past years plays have sometimes competed for best score. This year, the only eligible scores were from plays, so the category is fully made up of those.

What kind of disclaimer is needed?
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re: Samples of the Tony nominees (all plays) for Best Score
Posted by: scoot1er 04:46 pm EST 11/16/20
In reply to: re: Samples of the Tony nominees (all plays) for Best Score - writerkev 03:57 pm EST 11/16/20

Perhaps my use of the word "disclaimer" is wrong. What I said in the beginning is that there should be two categories: "Best Score for a Play" and "Best Score for a Musical."
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re: Samples of the Tony nominees (all plays) for Best Score
Last Edit: writerkev 05:01 pm EST 11/16/20
Posted by: writerkev 05:00 pm EST 11/16/20
In reply to: re: Samples of the Tony nominees (all plays) for Best Score - scoot1er 04:46 pm EST 11/16/20

Okay. And this year there are no eligible musicals, so that category wouldn't exist anyway. So what bugs you is that a play will take the award for Best Score without the disclaimer that it's Best Score of a Play.

It sounds like you definitely do think that's a lesser accomplishment. Just weird that you don't claim that opinion, when it's the only way what you're saying makes sense.
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re: Samples of the Tony nominees (all plays) for Best Score
Posted by: Ann 07:45 pm EST 11/16/20
In reply to: re: Samples of the Tony nominees (all plays) for Best Score - writerkev 05:00 pm EST 11/16/20

Wasn't The Lightning Thief eligible? Hard to remember, it seems like ages ago...
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re: Samples of the Tony nominees (all plays) for Best Score
Last Edit: WaymanWong 08:18 pm EST 11/16/20
Posted by: WaymanWong 08:06 pm EST 11/16/20
In reply to: re: Samples of the Tony nominees (all plays) for Best Score - Ann 07:45 pm EST 11/16/20

Yes, Rob Rokicki's score to ''The Lightning Thief'' was the only eligible score from a musical in this COVID-shortened Broadway season.

Had it not been for the virus, I imagine it might've competed for Best Score, alongside ''Flying Over Sunset,'' ''Mrs. Doubtfire'' and ''Six.''

I still think ''The Lightning Thief'' got a raw deal. I enjoyed a number of its tunes, like ''Bring on the Monsters'' and ''Good Kid.'' It was worthy of a nomination, especially compared to a number of Tony-nominated scores I could name. ''Merlin,'' anyone? ''Metro''? ''Copperfield''? ''The News''?

I also believe Chris McCarrell and Ryan Knowles gave award-caliber performances in ''The Lightning Thief'' that deserved Tony recognition.

By the way, since 1980, the Drama Desks have given out a separate award for Music of a Play (in addition to Lyrics and Music of a Musical).
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re: Samples of the Tony nominees (all plays) for Best Score
Posted by: scoot1er 05:24 pm EST 11/16/20
In reply to: re: Samples of the Tony nominees (all plays) for Best Score - writerkev 05:00 pm EST 11/16/20

If that’s what you want to believe, then believe it. I never said it’s a lesser accomplishment, just different, and that difference should be recognized.
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