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| Posted by: ryhog 12:43 am EST 11/22/20 | |
| In reply to: re: Oy Vey! - Chazwaza 12:04 am EST 11/22/20 | |
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| Also, Hedwig was, in essence, raped into the transformation. My understanding is that the trans "journey" involves the whole person-mind, body,essence, maybe soul-and I would think trans folk would not consider Hedwig's journey to be the same thing at all. (I am not trying to speak for anyone and it would be lovely if someone could straighten me out (no pun intended) to the extent I am off base.) | |
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| re: Oy Vey! | |
| Last Edit: Chazwaza 12:59 am EST 11/22/20 | |
| Posted by: Chazwaza 12:56 am EST 11/22/20 | |
| In reply to: re: Oy Vey! - ryhog 12:43 am EST 11/22/20 | |
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| For sure. I also think it's complex because Hedwig seems to live happily and on purpose as a female presenting rock star, so it's easy to watch it and assume this is a happy choice... however we know clearly from the text that Hedwig isn't simply a female presenting trans woman, nor does he identify that way despite the wig. But the wig, and the song about it, does give some the impression that Hedwig is female or even more a female trapped in a male body... however I think this speaks much more to the gay experience specifically than it does to my understanding of the trans experience. Escaping into or being empowered by your femme side, embracing it and living in it for certain moment or situations (to escape after work, or a rock performance show), seems to speak to both a trans experience and a gay experience (or at least the dramatization of the inner feelings of many gay men, and projectable to the female lesbian experience with male gendered clothing etc), so it's open to both/all (this may even be relatable to straight-cis people as well). But the important thing is A) the character's text does not identify him as trans, but does identify him as a femme gay male forced into a gender surgery B) The authors/creators/originator of the role and play specifically have said Hedwig isn't trans C) it has been said and proven that Hedwig can and should be open to be played by anyone. (and while my preference is heavily that it not be played by a straight man, that isn't fair as several straight men have done acclaimed amazing work in the role, like Michael Cerveris and Michael C. Hall, and many straight men, including in the original production and the revival/tour, have been approved by Mitchell and Trask... so that's that) | |
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| re: Oy Vey! | |
| Posted by: Singapore/Fling 05:33 pm EST 11/23/20 | |
| In reply to: re: Oy Vey! - Chazwaza 12:56 am EST 11/22/20 | |
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| Cerveris was incredible in the show, one of my all-time favorite Hedwigs. | |
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| re: Oy Vey! | |
| Posted by: Chazwaza 05:43 pm EST 11/23/20 | |
| In reply to: re: Oy Vey! - Singapore/Fling 05:33 pm EST 11/23/20 | |
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| In a way, because of the poetic and universality of the role/play, this is one queer role i think i'm okay with straight people getting to play too. | |
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| Last Edit: Chromolume 09:36 pm EST 11/22/20 | |
| Posted by: Chromolume 09:36 pm EST 11/22/20 | |
| In reply to: re: Oy Vey! - Chazwaza 12:56 am EST 11/22/20 | |
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| (and while my preference is heavily that it not be played by a straight man, that isn't fair as several straight men have done acclaimed amazing work in the role, like Michael Cerveris and Michael C. Hall, and many straight men, including in the original production and the revival/tour, have been approved by Mitchell and Trask... so that's that) Thank you for almost, but ultimately not quite, opening the can of worms...;-) |
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| re: Oy Vey! | |
| Posted by: Chazwaza 04:39 pm EST 11/23/20 | |
| In reply to: re: Oy Vey! - Chromolume 09:36 pm EST 11/22/20 | |
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| Ha, yep! I mean I still fervently advocate that any queer roles not be played by straight actors if just simply to do the basic thing of creating opportunity and paid work for queer actors who often only get a chance to play queer roles as it is. If the star-making roles or productions go to straight actors too then how are openly queer actors supposed to evolve in their careers let alone sustain this difficult career?! And obviously representation matter a lot too. But that's the common argument, and I feel the initial point i'm making is just as important but vastly less vocalized in this debate of who can/should/is allowed to play what. At this point in equality/society/representation/opportunity in our world, i do not by any means think it can be dismissed as simply being "about acting." No one asked but :) |
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