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| re: The Post says HAMILTON might re-open Broadway on July 4 | |
| Posted by: Bwayguy 12:44 pm EST 11/30/20 | |
| In reply to: The Post says HAMILTON might re-open Broadway on July 4 - StageLover 10:51 am EST 11/30/20 | |
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| Makes sense, but most shows cannot operate in this manner until higher capacity is allowed. | |
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| re: The Post says HAMILTON might re-open Broadway on July 4 | |
| Posted by: JereNYC (JereNYC@aol.com) 01:01 pm EST 11/30/20 | |
| In reply to: re: The Post says HAMILTON might re-open Broadway on July 4 - Bwayguy 12:44 pm EST 11/30/20 | |
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| I find it hard to believe that ANY production, even HAMILTON, would want to reopen to purposely lose money due to reduced capacity. Sure, the publicity would be amazing, but the point of publicity is to sell tickets and get butts in seats and that is not only not an issue for HAMILTON, but would be counter-productive to the current situation. If the producers and creatives of HAMILTON really have enough money to reopen the show, even though it means running at a loss for some period of time, more power to them, I guess. I'm sure every person who works at HAMILTON will be grateful for the work and the paycheck. But there are probably better uses for the money that just tossing it down the drain. I imagine that few productions would be able to do the same. Maybe PHANTOM and WICKED might...those folks can probably afford to float their shows for awhile too. I cannot imagine Disney doing this for their shows, especially given that they are laying off another 32K employees from their theme parks early next year after the massive lay off they did a few weeks ago. Of course, all this is highly speculative. Even if a vaccine will be available in the next couple of months, it will surely go to front line healthcare workers and the most vulnerable patients first. Regular people will likely not be getting it until summer, which probably means a fall restart for theatres at the earliest. |
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| Just a quick correction re Disney layoffs | |
| Posted by: HadriansMall 02:49 pm EST 11/30/20 | |
| In reply to: re: The Post says HAMILTON might re-open Broadway on July 4 - JereNYC 01:01 pm EST 11/30/20 | |
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| It’s not 32k more. It’s 4K more in addition to the already announced 28k | |
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| 40% of $2.5m is $1m | |
| Posted by: dramedy 01:39 pm EST 11/30/20 | |
| In reply to: re: The Post says HAMILTON might re-open Broadway on July 4 - JereNYC 01:01 pm EST 11/30/20 | |
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| I assume the show costs around $800k to run. So 40% capacity of its historic $2.5m weekly gross probably is enough. 25% capacity would be losing money. I see the problem more of publicity nightmare if it becomes a super spreader event and might have to shutdown again. |
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| re: 40% of $2.5m is $1m | |
| Posted by: ryhog 02:32 pm EST 11/30/20 | |
| In reply to: 40% of $2.5m is $1m - dramedy 01:39 pm EST 11/30/20 | |
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| The weekly gross had been over $3m, no? In any case, it means little because this is a show that has shown an ability to sell very high priced tickets such that percentages don't mean anything. In general, Page Six (or the Post anywhere) is the last place I would look for reliable info on Hamilton or anything else including Covid. That said, nothing is going to open until the state says it is safe. There will not be a reopening when there can be superspreader events, and Cuomo has never ever said what the article says about reopening. We will see what the facts are in the moment, which coincidentally has been Cuomo's mantra throughout. Right now, Everyone should be focused on keeping the virus at bay. The positive percentage in my zip code is about 1.5% so we are hopefully doing our part to make superspreading a non-event. |
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| frankly, EVEN if there were a true 6ft btwn filled seats AND masks on the entire time for ALL... | |
| Last Edit: Chazwaza 02:24 pm EST 11/30/20 | |
| Posted by: Chazwaza 02:23 pm EST 11/30/20 | |
| In reply to: 40% of $2.5m is $1m - dramedy 01:39 pm EST 11/30/20 | |
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| You'd still have to re-mount the original FOLLIES to get me to sit in a theater breathing the same still air as the same other 200-400 people for 2-3 hours. (before there's a widely available vaccine) And i truly doubt everyone, in the dark, who is willing to be there, would keep their mask on the entire show. That's just me. But good luck to everyone willing to pay to do this even with a top notch film of the stage production available streaming. |
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| re: frankly, EVEN if there were a true 6ft btwn filled seats AND masks on the entire time for ALL... | |
| Posted by: Zelgo 09:00 am EST 12/01/20 | |
| In reply to: frankly, EVEN if there were a true 6ft btwn filled seats AND masks on the entire time for ALL... - Chazwaza 02:23 pm EST 11/30/20 | |
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| Even I would go to that because I want to see if that original production was really as amazing as everyone claims or just another case of false memories. | |
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| re: frankly, EVEN if there were a true 6ft btwn filled seats AND masks on the entire time for ALL... | |
| Posted by: Chazwaza 01:52 pm EST 12/01/20 | |
| In reply to: re: frankly, EVEN if there were a true 6ft btwn filled seats AND masks on the entire time for ALL... - Zelgo 09:00 am EST 12/01/20 | |
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| I don't know why those are the two options. Whether one loves the material or not, there doesn't seem to be any question that the direction, staging, costumes, sets, lighting, and cast were all both deeply intelligent and sensational. But have you not seen the videos and photos at least that exist of it? I have no doubt that it was every bit what everyone says it was. |
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| re: frankly, EVEN if there were a true 6ft btwn filled seats AND masks on the entire time for ALL... | |
| Posted by: theaterbear 02:33 pm EST 11/30/20 | |
| In reply to: frankly, EVEN if there were a true 6ft btwn filled seats AND masks on the entire time for ALL... - Chazwaza 02:23 pm EST 11/30/20 | |
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| Thats my worry as well - people taking off their masks once the house lights go down. The poor ushers already had enough to deal with with cellphones - now add them policing the audience for masks as well? The amount of distracting arguments and fights that will likely result from people trying to take off their masks and others calling them out on it is enough to ruin my night so I'll be holding off on going back. | |
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| re: frankly, EVEN if there were a true 6ft btwn filled seats AND masks on the entire time for ALL... | |
| Posted by: ryhog 02:37 pm EST 11/30/20 | |
| In reply to: re: frankly, EVEN if there were a true 6ft btwn filled seats AND masks on the entire time for ALL... - theaterbear 02:33 pm EST 11/30/20 | |
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| again, false premise (based on the purveyor of falsity, the Post). | |
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| re: The Post says HAMILTON might re-open Broadway on July 4 - bad info | |
| Posted by: Ncassidine 01:14 pm EST 11/30/20 | |
| In reply to: re: The Post says HAMILTON might re-open Broadway on July 4 - JereNYC 01:01 pm EST 11/30/20 | |
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| If any show has the money to open at reduced capacity, it's Hamilton. Also, frontline doctors are expected to get the vaccine in the next few weeks. If it works out, we should all have it by July. |
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| ONE DAY CLOSER TO BROADWAY | |
| Posted by: showbuzz 10:21 pm EST 11/30/20 | |
| In reply to: re: The Post says HAMILTON might re-open Broadway on July 4 - bad info - Ncassidine 01:14 pm EST 11/30/20 | |
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| I had heard that TicketMaster was thinking about requiring a current Negative Covid test or proof of vaccination to buy a ticket and enter the theatre.....and as Ncassidine said...a large # of Americans will probably be vaccinated by June. Friends of mine in the International tour of PHANTOM OF THE OPERA just reopened in Shanghai in a full house (5000 seats)....these are lessons we need to take to heart....AND HEED No matter what quibbles you or I may have....Broadway and tours will be back in the not so distant future. Long Live Broadway and as Tim Dolan says: "ONE DAY CLOSER TO BROADWAY" |
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| re: ONE DAY CLOSER TO BROADWAY | |
| Posted by: Ann 10:23 pm EST 11/30/20 | |
| In reply to: ONE DAY CLOSER TO BROADWAY - showbuzz 10:21 pm EST 11/30/20 | |
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| Would that be legal? How would you prove that, especially at the point of sale? | |
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| re: ONE DAY CLOSER TO BROADWAY | |
| Posted by: BroadwayTonyJ 11:09 pm EST 11/30/20 | |
| In reply to: re: ONE DAY CLOSER TO BROADWAY - Ann 10:23 pm EST 11/30/20 | |
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| I was told a few months ago that some theaters in Europe are requiring that all ticket holders for a given show must be tested for Covid on the day of a performance. The result is then sent to their smart phones. A negative result is needed for admittance to the show that evening. | |
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| re: ONE DAY CLOSER TO BROADWAY | |
| Posted by: Ann 07:17 am EST 12/01/20 | |
| In reply to: re: ONE DAY CLOSER TO BROADWAY - BroadwayTonyJ 11:09 pm EST 11/30/20 | |
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| I was thinking more about the vaccine. Will private companies be able to require proof of the vaccine for sale of goods? | |
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| re: ONE DAY CLOSER TO BROADWAY | |
| Posted by: BroadwayTonyJ 10:35 am EST 12/01/20 | |
| In reply to: re: ONE DAY CLOSER TO BROADWAY - Ann 07:17 am EST 12/01/20 | |
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| I would think requiring proof of vaccination will be a requirement. It's the same principle as requiring masks. Theaters are private companies. I can't see why it would not be legal. Of course, red states like Florida, the Dakotas, and others won't do it for the theaters in their states, but that's their choice. Even with the availabilty of vaccines, it may take years (if ever) to convince 90% of the population to be vaccinated, which is what is needed to create herd immunity. I can't imagine Cuomo allowing Broadway to open unless it's absolutely safe. | |
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| re: ONE DAY CLOSER TO BROADWAY | |
| Posted by: Ann 10:50 am EST 12/01/20 | |
| In reply to: re: ONE DAY CLOSER TO BROADWAY - BroadwayTonyJ 10:35 am EST 12/01/20 | |
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| We'll see. Proof of vaccine would be revealing personal medical information, unlike masks. And I realize schools require vaccinations, but I think that's by legislation. Will states be enacting laws about vaccines for people wanting to go to a theatre? Can this be done by mandate? (And for the record, I'll be first in line when my number comes up to get a vaccine, and I would have no problem showing my sticker, membership card, or whatever to prove I got it - though Broadway isn't the first place I'm going.) |
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| re: ONE DAY CLOSER TO BROADWAY | |
| Last Edit: BroadwayTonyJ 12:25 pm EST 12/02/20 | |
| Posted by: BroadwayTonyJ 12:23 pm EST 12/02/20 | |
| In reply to: re: ONE DAY CLOSER TO BROADWAY - Ann 10:50 am EST 12/01/20 | |
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| In 1954 when I was vaccinated for polio, I think I was given a chain which I wore around my neck. It certified that I had been vaccinated. I attended Catholic grade school and went to a Catholic church, and I certainly wouldn't have been allowed in either without my chain. I may be mistaken and I don't recall exactly how it was enforced (I was only 6), but I remember when my friends and I went to Riverview amusement park and Comiskey Park (both in Chicago), our parents made us wear our polio chains. |
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| re: ONE DAY CLOSER TO BROADWAY | |
| Posted by: fosse76 10:49 am EST 12/03/20 | |
| In reply to: re: ONE DAY CLOSER TO BROADWAY - BroadwayTonyJ 12:23 pm EST 12/02/20 | |
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| Mandatory vaccinations must be approved through legislation. Outside of that, businesses cannot impose vaccination requirements on customers or employees. | |
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| re: ONE DAY CLOSER TO BROADWAY | |
| Posted by: BroadwayTonyJ 07:58 pm EST 12/03/20 | |
| In reply to: re: ONE DAY CLOSER TO BROADWAY - fosse76 10:49 am EST 12/03/20 | |
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| The laws vary by state. There are definitely states that mandate vaccinations for school children and also allow businesses to require their employees be vaccinated against certain diseases. | |
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| re: The Post says HAMILTON might re-open Broadway on July 4 - bad info | |
| Posted by: peterr 04:33 pm EST 11/30/20 | |
| In reply to: re: The Post says HAMILTON might re-open Broadway on July 4 - bad info - Ncassidine 01:14 pm EST 11/30/20 | |
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| Yes but will everyone take it? Until these theaters can improve air circulation and the pandemic is officially over it's going to be a slow road back for theater going. Even with the vaccines scientists are saying social distancing and masks will still be required. | |
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| re: The Post says HAMILTON might re-open Broadway on July 4 - bad info | |
| Posted by: JereNYC (JereNYC@aol.com) 01:26 pm EST 11/30/20 | |
| In reply to: re: The Post says HAMILTON might re-open Broadway on July 4 - bad info - Ncassidine 01:14 pm EST 11/30/20 | |
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| I'm not disputing that the powers that be at HAMILTON have the money to open at reduced capacity. I'm sure the great-grandchildren of every person involved at HAMILTON will lead lives of leisure due to their ancestor's participation in the show. My question was would they really want to reopen their show knowing that they will be losing money doing so for a period of weeks or months, which is what the article in the POST is supposing. It is a business, after all. And businesses that don't make money, don't last very long. Would the lost money be able to be written off their taxes? If I were the IRS, I would probably look askance at that. We shall see about a vaccine. |
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| re: The Post says HAMILTON might re-open Broadway on July 4 - bad info | |
| Posted by: theaterbear 01:31 pm EST 11/30/20 | |
| In reply to: re: The Post says HAMILTON might re-open Broadway on July 4 - bad info - JereNYC 01:26 pm EST 11/30/20 | |
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| Has there been any talk about Equity offering concessions to producers who reopen at limited capacity? Meaning, is Equity offering to reduce the salaries of their members to accommodate producers who reopen but have far less chance of reaching their weekly nut due to reduced audiences? (I'm not saying they should, I just haven't seen anything along those lines and wonder if I missed it) | |
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