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| re: The Post says HAMILTON might re-open Broadway on July 4 | |
| Posted by: ryhog 04:36 pm EST 11/30/20 | |
| In reply to: re: The Post says HAMILTON might re-open Broadway on July 4 - NewsGuy 02:50 pm EST 11/30/20 | |
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| I am curious about one thing: how many of your own friends and family are you willing to sacrifice to your blind "go for it" philosophy? Because that's what going for it before it's time means. | |
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| re: The Post says HAMILTON might re-open Broadway on July 4 | |
| Posted by: NewsGuy 04:56 pm EST 11/30/20 | |
| In reply to: re: The Post says HAMILTON might re-open Broadway on July 4 - ryhog 04:36 pm EST 11/30/20 | |
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| At this point - it's about living with it and learning how to say YES instead of having to say NO all the time and hiding away. No one is being sacrificed. Pull your head out, be smart and one can manage. I've been working in North Dakota on the spike there for the past month. Roughly 1 in 10 in the state have it as this point - I don't ... because I learned how to live with it and yet still frequented restaurants, breweries, parks, universities, government centers and even hospitals. |
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| re: The Post says HAMILTON might re-open Broadway on July 4 | |
| Posted by: ryhog 08:56 pm EST 11/30/20 | |
| In reply to: re: The Post says HAMILTON might re-open Broadway on July 4 - NewsGuy 04:56 pm EST 11/30/20 | |
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| You are confounding personal perspectives with epidemiological ones. As many of us have known since March, individual action can result in avoidance of the virus. That is the signature point of masks and distancing, handwashing etc. But our government has a different and very hard job, which is to save others (including the helpless) from themselves. Because there are still stupid people in this country (hello North Dakota!) there must be control. Much of Asia solved this riddle before it even got going. We didn't. We had people talking about finding ways to say yes and that's why we are looking forward to a "horrible" winter. It's sad but true. You think you have figured out all of these inconsistencies but you are a tyro. Data drives what is allowed and what is not. New York has the best numbers of any state of meaningful size and shape because of that. As I said, the positivity in my zip code in 1.5% (double from what it was a month ago, but still low enough to let things happen). We have had a very festive summer, but we also have to be smart, and Broadway theatres are not smart. Oh, and those "shacks a lot of restaurants built that not everyone understands? Read the regulations: if the are not open on 2 sides, they are indoor seating. That lets a restaurant increase its indoor capacity but if we end up shutting indoors down (as we have done in the zones with higher infections - which, incidentally, are nonetheless a fraction of North Dakota or most everywhere else in this country). It's a calculated risk that didn't seem as risky a few weeks ago. | |
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| re: The Post says HAMILTON might re-open Broadway on July 4 | |
| Posted by: Thom915 08:18 pm EST 12/01/20 | |
| In reply to: re: The Post says HAMILTON might re-open Broadway on July 4 - ryhog 08:56 pm EST 11/30/20 | |
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| North Dakota may be stupid but they really cannot hold a candle to South Dakota host of the Sturgis motorcycle rally and a state which unlike its northern sibling still does not have a mask mandate. Broadway's reopening I think depends on the effectiveness of the vaccine and of the vaccine's rollout. We have been promised that everyone in the country who wants a vaccine will be able to get a vaccine by May but of course we have been promised many things by government before ("anyone who wants a test can get a test" and to be non-partisan "if you like your doctor you will be able to keep your doctor") so we have to see How both things go. If 70% or more of the country is vaccinated by June and the vaccine according to the numbers appears to be working, it is very probable that a reopening of Broadway can begin to roll out and at a capacity of more than 40% (which would not be practical for most shows) Getting people to the theater in supportable numbers would probably be the real challenge especially until such time as tourism begins to pick up in New York City which given the state of a post pandemic recovery will take more than a bit of time, I think. | |
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| re: The Post says HAMILTON might re-open Broadway on July 4 | |
| Posted by: ryhog 11:40 pm EST 12/01/20 | |
| In reply to: re: The Post says HAMILTON might re-open Broadway on July 4 - Thom915 08:18 pm EST 12/01/20 | |
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| I always get the Dakotas mixed up so mea culpa. (Not that ND has anything to be bragging about atm.) I agree that everything is vaccine dependent and we are only guessing right now. I also agree that shows can't reopen until the audiences for those shows (which are not the same of course) are ready willing and able to buy tickets and again, we are only guessing right now. As I have said, the economy may be a bigger challenge than the virus. | |
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| re: The Post says HAMILTON might re-open Broadway on July 4 | |
| Posted by: sirpupnyc 12:28 am EST 12/02/20 | |
| In reply to: re: The Post says HAMILTON might re-open Broadway on July 4 - ryhog 11:40 pm EST 12/01/20 | |
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| I always mix up the Dakota and the San Remo. :) Not that it negates any of your points, but FWIW, I saw my doctor this afternoon and he's expecting vaccines to be in general distribution (beyond the initial targeted groups) by spring. He's not one to parrot the party line if he disagrees, and he's an infectious diseases guy. I'll still believe it when it happens, but I put more stock in his opinion than that of a politician or pundit. Still doesn't put me back to work, but it makes me a little more hopeful for fall or maybe summer. Though Unemployment is still going to run out before my lack of employment, so... |
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| re: The Post says HAMILTON might re-open Broadway on July 4 | |
| Posted by: ryhog 07:28 pm EST 12/02/20 | |
| In reply to: re: The Post says HAMILTON might re-open Broadway on July 4 - sirpupnyc 12:28 am EST 12/02/20 | |
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| "I always mix up the Dakota and the San Remo. :) " The San Remo was originally supposed to be called the Dakota, and the two towers would have been North Dakota and South Dakota. When that fell through, they were going to call the San Remo the North Dakota and the Dakota the South Dakota. That fell through too. I think your doc is probably right. Still, it'll take a while for that general distribution to happen, and remember there are a lot of people who, while not being anti-vaxxers, plan to wait until they can let the side effects play out in the general population. I hope you get back sooner rather than later. I've been sayin' the Fall since the Spring. |
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| re: The Post says HAMILTON might re-open Broadway on July 4 | |
| Posted by: Singapore/Fling 12:16 am EST 12/01/20 | |
| In reply to: re: The Post says HAMILTON might re-open Broadway on July 4 - ryhog 08:56 pm EST 11/30/20 | |
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| Thanks for the info on those shacks. New ones are built every day, replacing previous outdoor dining areas, so I was under the impression they were still being treated as such. Good to know they're not. | |
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| re: The Post says HAMILTON might re-open Broadway on July 4 | |
| Posted by: ryhog 12:44 pm EST 12/01/20 | |
| In reply to: re: The Post says HAMILTON might re-open Broadway on July 4 - Singapore/Fling 12:16 am EST 12/01/20 | |
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| I know I am veering off-topic but I thought this was good and useful. And it DOES have applications and implications for theatre-going concerns. | |
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| re: The Post says HAMILTON might re-open Broadway on July 4 | |
| Posted by: Ncassidine 08:31 pm EST 11/30/20 | |
| In reply to: re: The Post says HAMILTON might re-open Broadway on July 4 - NewsGuy 04:56 pm EST 11/30/20 | |
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| North Dakota has done the worst job of almost any state. | |
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| re: The Post says HAMILTON might re-open Broadway on July 4 | |
| Posted by: KingSpeed 05:37 pm EST 11/30/20 | |
| In reply to: re: The Post says HAMILTON might re-open Broadway on July 4 - NewsGuy 04:56 pm EST 11/30/20 | |
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| It’s all about you, isn’t? | |
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