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| re: A shame that Jeremy Shamos was shut out of a SAG nomination | |
| Posted by: mikem 10:09 pm EST 02/04/21 | |
| In reply to: re: A shame that Jeremy Shamos was shut out of a SAG nomination - WaymanWong 07:38 pm EST 02/04/21 | |
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| I'm pretty sure the title card name placement is contractual and NOT related to salary. I think it's up to each individual production how many they want to have. It's analogous to how many people are above or below the title in a Broadway show. That's related to the size of the roles, but ultimately up to the production. Roundabout gives out above-the-title billing like water. Alexander Gemignani was billed above the title for playing the Boatman in their Sunday in the Park with George, and there is no way anyone could justify that is a leading role or otherwise deserving of above-the-title billing. (Gemignani is very talented; this is not about him per se.) An interesting theater-related note to SAG designation: apparently, Britney Spears was under serious consideration for playing one of the Merry Murderesses in the film version of Chicago, which won the SAG Award for Best Ensemble. Each of the Murderesses was named on a separate title card and won the SAG. So Britney Spears, who is a truly terrible actress, came close to winning one of the highest acting awards. |
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| re: A shame that Jeremy Shamos was shut out of a SAG nomination | |
| Posted by: bobby2 03:36 am EST 02/06/21 | |
| In reply to: re: A shame that Jeremy Shamos was shut out of a SAG nomination - mikem 10:09 pm EST 02/04/21 | |
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| Billing is in the contracts. Especially for lead actors. It will say the font must be the same size as the other actors or must be bigger etc. Every detail is negotiated (or to quote Sunday, every minor detail is a major decision.) Spears was supposed to play Go to Hell Kitty but ended up not. (not sure if this was due to her mental issues.) As it is now I always find Lucy Liu odd in the role. She's not a big enough star to have a special cameo like that. They should have got Bebe Neuwirth or someone else that would make the cameo meaningful. |
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| re: A shame that Jeremy Shamos was shut out of a SAG nomination | |
| Posted by: Singapore/Fling 05:03 pm EST 02/06/21 | |
| In reply to: re: A shame that Jeremy Shamos was shut out of a SAG nomination - bobby2 03:36 am EST 02/06/21 | |
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| Lucy Liu is more famous and recognizable to the general public than Bebe Neuwirth is, especially at the time the film was made, when Liu was prominently starring in the "Charlie Angels" franchise. Bebe being in the part would have only been meaningful to the small core of Broadway fans who knew her association with the stage show. | |
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| re: A shame that Jeremy Shamos was shut out of a SAG nomination | |
| Last Edit: WaymanWong 04:42 pm EST 02/06/21 | |
| Posted by: WaymanWong 04:39 pm EST 02/06/21 | |
| In reply to: re: A shame that Jeremy Shamos was shut out of a SAG nomination - bobby2 03:36 am EST 02/06/21 | |
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| I was happy to see Lucy Liu in ''Chicago.'' She's an Emmy nominee and a two-time SAG Award winner. It's not as if ''Chicago'' required her to do a dynamic dance solo (beyond her skill set); she was simply playing an angry socialite who shoots her lover. Billy Flynn says Kitty's mother ''owns all the pineapples in Hawaii,'' so I don't see why that role couldn't be played by an Asian-American actress. It's a small but nice nod to racial diversity. |
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| re: A shame that Jeremy Shamos was shut out of a SAG nomination | |
| Posted by: Singapore/Fling 12:33 am EST 02/05/21 | |
| In reply to: re: A shame that Jeremy Shamos was shut out of a SAG nomination - mikem 10:09 pm EST 02/04/21 | |
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| In terms of Gemignani's billing, it's worth pointing out that the 2008 revival did the doubling different than the original, so Gemignani was also playing Dennis in the second act, which made it a larger role than the original Boatman track. I don't know that this track would necessarily still deserve above the title billing - and you're right that Roundabout gives out this perk rather than paying a fair wage - but it's not quite as ridiculous as your accounting suggests in terms of the roles he played. For the most recent revival, the original track was restored, meaning that David Turner has the distinction of playing Franz on Broadway twice but Dennis only once. |
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| re: A shame that Jeremy Shamos was shut out of a SAG nomination | |
| Posted by: mikem 08:29 am EST 02/05/21 | |
| In reply to: re: A shame that Jeremy Shamos was shut out of a SAG nomination - Singapore/Fling 12:33 am EST 02/05/21 | |
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| S/F, thanks for the insight. That version of Sunday in the Park is the first one I ever saw, so I did not know that the doubling was different than usual. I wonder why it was changed. Everyone will have a different reaction to every production, but I left feeling that Gemignani's above-the-title billing was completely bizarre. I guess it's because he may have lines, but he doesn't have songs, and I didn't really see much of a complex character in either act. Michael Cumpsty and Jessica Molaskey also had above-the-title billing, but that didn't seem that strange because they shared a song as Jules and Yvonne early in the show, and they made some impact on me. But Gemignani did not. He just seemed to be an ensemble player with no larger impact than any other ensemble player. | |
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