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| Last Edit: Quicheo 11:51 am EST 02/16/21 | |
| Posted by: Quicheo 11:50 am EST 02/16/21 | |
| In reply to: Can anyone compare and contrast Sara Gettelfinger and Erin Davie's performances in Grey Gardens? - DanielVincent 02:56 pm EST 02/15/21 | |
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| A sad memory: I saw one of the last performances off-Broadway of Grey Gardens. I agree with the posters that have praised Ms. Gettelginger's performance--she was delightful, full of hope, yet still played the beginnings of some cracks in the façade. The entire production was magical. Seated behind me was a man who was speaking loudly to friends at intermission. It became clear that he was one of the producers of the show and was describing its planned / hoped for move to Broadway. He mentioned, as a throw away--"of course, the younger girl will have to be replaced." His take was that she simply wasn't physically attractive enough--and then went on a tangent about all these quirky actors--Peri Gilpin and Vicki Lewis, by name, but he was speaking of a whole class of people--that get a moment of fame but then can't book even TV movies because they aren't good looking (!). In his opinion, people didn't want to have to look at less-than-perfect people, and shouldn't have to. His friends nodded and sighed, and then one of the women said, "Well I think she's very good and you'd be stupid to lose her. But what do I know?" The houselights dimmed and the second act began before he responded. When I saw the show on Broadway, Ms. Davie was perfectly lovely and certainly looked more of-a-type with Ms. Ebersole. But I missed that frantic edge Ms. Gettelfinger mined just enough. And I remain sick to my stomach that some people in power think an audience just wants to gawk at their art. |
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| re: Can anyone compare and contrast Sara Gettelfinger and Erin Davie's performances in Grey Gardens? | |
| Posted by: Michael_Portantiere 01:35 pm EST 02/16/21 | |
| In reply to: re: Can anyone compare and contrast Sara Gettelfinger and Erin Davie's performances in Grey Gardens? - Quicheo 11:50 am EST 02/16/21 | |
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| What you overheard is/was indeed, very sad, and it raises several questions. First of all, do we take this to mean that Sara was considered attractive enough for off-Broadway but not for Broadway? Mmore importantly, the comment of this producer indicates that he didn't understand his own show, because I think most of us would agree that the main issue is not how physically attractive the woman playing Little Edie needs to appear in the first act, but rather, whether or not she resembles Christine Ebersole enough to make it credible that the character in Act I ages into the character in Act II. I almost wish you would give this producer's name if you know it, though I can certainly understand why you would decline to do so! |
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| re: Can anyone compare and contrast Sara Gettelfinger and Erin Davie's performances in Grey Gardens? | |
| Last Edit: lordofspeech 07:19 pm EST 02/16/21 | |
| Posted by: lordofspeech 07:16 pm EST 02/16/21 | |
| In reply to: re: Can anyone compare and contrast Sara Gettelfinger and Erin Davie's performances in Grey Gardens? - Michael_Portantiere 01:35 pm EST 02/16/21 | |
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| I saw it on Broadway and the carry-over from the first act to the second confused. Had the gitl been molested by somebody or grievously jilted? Right now I can’t remember what was supposed to have so unhinged her. Her parebts opposed a marriage? It’s not just that I don’t remember; it’s that I clearly remember not being able to grasp whst the script was driving at. And, by the way, the big Edie of Ebersole in Act I bore no resemblance to Big Edie in Act II. None. If the producers were looking for visual similarities between characters, they blew it there. |
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| re: Can anyone compare and contrast Sara Gettelfinger and Erin Davie's performances in Grey Gardens? | |
| Posted by: Michael_Portantiere 12:18 am EST 02/17/21 | |
| In reply to: re: Can anyone compare and contrast Sara Gettelfinger and Erin Davie's performances in Grey Gardens? - lordofspeech 07:16 pm EST 02/16/21 | |
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| I think it was pretty clear that the major trauma in Little Edie's life was that she thought she was going to marry Joe Kennedy but then it didn't happen. That plus family trauma, including a highly dysfunctional relationship with her mother. Honestly, I'm surprised you missed all of that. | |
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| re: Can anyone compare and contrast Sara Gettelfinger and Erin Davie's performances in Grey Gardens? | |
| Posted by: Quicheo 10:18 am EST 02/17/21 | |
| In reply to: re: Can anyone compare and contrast Sara Gettelfinger and Erin Davie's performances in Grey Gardens? - Michael_Portantiere 12:18 am EST 02/17/21 | |
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| And, of course, the non-arrival of the father, who has taken his affections and his money elsewhere. The mother and daughter suddenly drop in economic status but remain stuck in the house, by the financial as well as emotional devastation. | |
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| re: Can anyone compare and contrast Sara Gettelfinger and Erin Davie's performances in Grey Gardens? | |
| Posted by: Michael_Portantiere 10:34 am EST 02/17/21 | |
| In reply to: re: Can anyone compare and contrast Sara Gettelfinger and Erin Davie's performances in Grey Gardens? - Quicheo 10:18 am EST 02/17/21 | |
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| "And, of course, the non-arrival of the father, who has taken his affections and his money elsewhere. The mother and daughter suddenly drop in economic status but remain stuck in the house, by the financial as well as emotional devastation." Yes, of course, that's what I meant by "family trauma." |
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| re: Can anyone compare and contrast Sara Gettelfinger and Erin Davie's performances in Grey Gardens? | |
| Posted by: lordofspeech 12:01 pm EST 02/17/21 | |
| In reply to: re: Can anyone compare and contrast Sara Gettelfinger and Erin Davie's performances in Grey Gardens? - Michael_Portantiere 10:34 am EST 02/17/21 | |
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| No. Thanks. Thanks. I just couldn’t really recall it all and remember I hadn’t been able to sort it out at the time I saw the show. Did she lose her virginity to the Kennedy boy? Sorry. It just seemed a lot that was packed in there, especially if it was meant to track into act two. | |
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| re: Can anyone compare and contrast Sara Gettelfinger and Erin Davie's performances in Grey Gardens? | |
| Posted by: Quicheo 01:57 pm EST 02/16/21 | |
| In reply to: re: Can anyone compare and contrast Sara Gettelfinger and Erin Davie's performances in Grey Gardens? - Michael_Portantiere 01:35 pm EST 02/16/21 | |
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| My sense was, Michael, that this man was part of the people who came in when raising money for the transfer and not part of the original team. He clearly considered himself an authority on how to make things work and what audiences want. And I agree with you about not understanding his show--and more so, what makes theater connect with people. And I was unable to ascertain who he was. |
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| re: Can anyone compare and contrast Sara Gettelfinger and Erin Davie's performances in Grey Gardens? | |
| Posted by: Michael_Portantiere 02:46 pm EST 02/16/21 | |
| In reply to: re: Can anyone compare and contrast Sara Gettelfinger and Erin Davie's performances in Grey Gardens? - Quicheo 01:57 pm EST 02/16/21 | |
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| Thanks. It's a little bit of a relief -- though still disturbing, on another level -- that, as I suspected, the fellow in question was not so much a producer as a investor. | |
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| re: Can anyone compare and contrast Sara Gettelfinger and Erin Davie's performances in Grey Gardens? | |
| Posted by: Quicheo 02:53 pm EST 02/16/21 | |
| In reply to: re: Can anyone compare and contrast Sara Gettelfinger and Erin Davie's performances in Grey Gardens? - Michael_Portantiere 02:46 pm EST 02/16/21 | |
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| Certainly. Or maybe just a mouthy blowhard. But he talked as if he had some say in the matter, but again, who knows? The crux of his comments was disheartening, though, especially when the actress he said would depart the production did indeed do so. | |
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| re: Can anyone compare and contrast Sara Gettelfinger and Erin Davie's performances in Grey Gardens? | |
| Posted by: Michael_Portantiere 04:55 pm EST 02/16/21 | |
| In reply to: re: Can anyone compare and contrast Sara Gettelfinger and Erin Davie's performances in Grey Gardens? - Quicheo 02:53 pm EST 02/16/21 | |
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| "The crux of his comments was disheartening, though, especially when the actress he said would depart the production did indeed do so." Yes, I can certainly understand why it was very disheartening for you to have overheard that conversation. And P.S., aside from whatever judgments we might make about that blowhard for the opinion he expressed, I think we can all agree that he was an absolute idiot for speaking about something like that so openly while surrounded by people in an audience. For all he knew, one of Sara's relatives or closest friends could have been within earshot. P.P.S., again, I do wonder why Sara's appearance was not considered a problem when she was cast for the Off-Broadway production, but then one or more people came to see it as a problem for the move to Broadway. |
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| re: Can anyone compare and contrast Sara Gettelfinger and Erin Davie's performances in Grey Gardens? | |
| Posted by: Quicheo 05:11 pm EST 02/16/21 | |
| In reply to: re: Can anyone compare and contrast Sara Gettelfinger and Erin Davie's performances in Grey Gardens? - Michael_Portantiere 04:55 pm EST 02/16/21 | |
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| "P.P.S., again, I do wonder why Sara's appearance was not considered a problem when she was cast for the Off-Broadway production, but then one or more people came to see it as a problem for the move to Broadway." I think it is because she is a beautiful person and there is nothing wrong with her appearance to a normal human being--indeed, to my eye, she, and Peri Gilpin and Vicki Lewis are all dazzling creatures. And this guy was clearly, as you point out, a boorish idiot. |
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