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| re: Try to remember: Will Tony ballots test the voters' powers of recollection? | |
| Posted by: Chromolume 01:28 am EST 02/20/21 | |
| In reply to: re: Try to remember: Will Tony ballots test the voters' powers of recollection? - ryhog 10:13 pm EST 02/19/21 | |
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| We don't "beat" people. We are awarded. This is not a sporting event. In your mind, perhaps. But I think to many people, the competition is the whole point. It IS a sporting event. |
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| Posted by: KingSpeed 07:09 am EST 02/21/21 | |
| In reply to: re: Try to remember: Will Tony ballots test the voters' powers of recollection? - Chromolume 01:28 am EST 02/20/21 | |
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| Who thinks of this as a sporting event??? Art is not a competition. Actors are awarded trophies for their performances but the actors giving their performances (if they're doing it right) are telling a story. Not trying to score more points than the actress two blocks away. If I won a Tony, I wouldn't think of it as beating the other nominees at all. If anything, the real competition in this business is the auditioning process in which one actor literally tries to overcome all the other candidates to secure the role. Even then, the ultimate decision by the director is an artistic one and not whoever scores 100 points wins. As an actor, when someone else gets a role I auditioned for, I'm happy for them and understand that many of us can play these roles and that this is just their turn. But back to the Tonys. I love sporting events. That is why I watch the NBA Playoffs. For the Tonys, I tune in to watch a celebration of theater. At least, that's what I hope for. |
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| re: Try to remember: Will Tony ballots test the voters' powers of recollection? | |
| Posted by: ryhog 01:47 pm EST 02/20/21 | |
| In reply to: re: Try to remember: Will Tony ballots test the voters' powers of recollection? - Chromolume 01:28 am EST 02/20/21 | |
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| My mind is the only thing I am responsible for. :-) In a sporting event, one performs a feat that either wins or loses (or, depending on the sport, ties). People who make theatre (a) do it to create something that's hopefully worthwhile, often without having the vaguest idea of who might later be up for an award at the same time, and (b) don't do it to win an award. While Aaron Tveit was losing sleep over the notes he got one afternoon from Alex Timbers, it was not because he was worried about beating Chris McCarrell (or anyone else) at the Tonys. I don't think you really believe that "the competition is the whole point." |
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| re: Try to remember: Will Tony ballots test the voters' powers of recollection? | |
| Posted by: Chromolume 01:56 pm EST 02/20/21 | |
| In reply to: re: Try to remember: Will Tony ballots test the voters' powers of recollection? - ryhog 01:47 pm EST 02/20/21 | |
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| I don't think you really believe that "the competition is the whole point." Not for the nominees, of course. But for the audience, yes. If not, many of us out here wouldn't spend days and hours beforehand arguing over who should win, who will win, etc. For us, it's a competition, and in places like this, it gets pretty fanatical. Perhaps the comparison should be a little more to "fantasy" sports games, etc? |
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| re: Try to remember: Will Tony ballots test the voters' powers of recollection? | |
| Posted by: KingSpeed 07:12 am EST 02/21/21 | |
| In reply to: re: Try to remember: Will Tony ballots test the voters' powers of recollection? - Chromolume 01:56 pm EST 02/20/21 | |
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| But if you want that rush, watch real sports in which the outcome truly hangs in the balance on live TV. As I said, you can't do much better than the NBA Playoffs in terms of real live drama. The Tony Award winners are already determined before the show begins. We're just witnessing the announcement. That is not a sport. | |
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| re: Try to remember: Will Tony ballots test the voters' powers of recollection? | |
| Posted by: Singapore/Fling 02:25 pm EST 02/21/21 | |
| In reply to: re: Try to remember: Will Tony ballots test the voters' powers of recollection? - KingSpeed 07:12 am EST 02/21/21 | |
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| I mean, that's a weird analogy, because the entire season is the playoff game - we're watching each show and each performance, and then debating and analyzing who should win, and then going through all of the other awards to build up the excitement, and then finally at the Tony Awards we're in like the last minute of the game, and either the score is super close or we know it's pretty much a blowout, but either way it's not decided until the buzzer blow and the envelope is opened. I'm not a big fan of the way Chromolume is framing the awards show as being about the competition first and foremost, but I can't say I don't also get caught up in the competitive spirit of it all. And that aspect of it is cultivated by the awarding bodies, in order to get us more invested in it, and therefore watching all the content, and therefore supporting the industry. |
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