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| re: "It turns out that the American theater has no towering figure even attempting to lead it through this crisis, the way Andrew Lloyd Webber has in Britain. " | |
| Posted by: NewtonUK 06:22 am EST 03/11/21 | |
| In reply to: re: "It turns out that the American theater has no towering figure even attempting to lead it through this crisis, the way Andrew Lloyd Webber has in Britain. " - Michael_Portantiere 11:45 pm EST 03/10/21 | |
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| I think we will learn a lot from UK theatre over the next few months. At this week's SOLT Forum we discussed the staggered reopening of London theatres, in various ways, starting Mat 17 and June 21, with projected full opening by September (always with the caveat that events on the ground may change this timetable). Good (and fair) deals around reopening have been in place with all of the West End unions for months (Theatre, Opera, and Ballet). Detailed protocols are in place for health and safety, created from government standards, not by Labor Unions Still without audiences, but the Berlin Philharmonic has been playing their full season at the Philharmonie, and streaming it world wide. I know many of my American colleagues will be astounded - but the orchestra members are still alive. The Vienna State Opera has streamed three productions live from their opera house - without audiences - and their orchestra and chorus and principals and stage hands and staff are all still alive. One of the vienna productions was a complex CARMEN by CAlixto Beito, new to Vienna, which had to be full rehearsed as well as performed. Not a problem Europe has protocols, and has had for many many months, which allow performers to perform live on stage - not 12 feet apart. And yet hysteria continues to abound in America. Why? |
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| Saturday Night Live has been broadcasting all year... | |
| Posted by: Pashacar 03:21 pm EDT 03/15/21 | |
| In reply to: re: "It turns out that the American theater has no towering figure even attempting to lead it through this crisis, the way Andrew Lloyd Webber has in Britain. " - NewtonUK 06:22 am EST 03/11/21 | |
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| From right in the middle of Manhattan, as one of many examples of similar entertainment still being produced and broadcast in America. I'm not sure where all of your misguided fury comes from, but maybe at least try to come with some basis in fact? |
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| re: "It turns out that the American theater has no towering figure even attempting to lead it through this crisis, the way Andrew Lloyd Webber has in Britain. " | |
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| Posted by: Singapore/Fling 10:14 pm EST 03/11/21 | |
| In reply to: re: "It turns out that the American theater has no towering figure even attempting to lead it through this crisis, the way Andrew Lloyd Webber has in Britain. " - NewtonUK 06:22 am EST 03/11/21 | |
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| If you think the deals are fair, we can be assured that the artists and laborers are getting the poor end of the deal. But, hey, at least they get one day off a week! (And UK, at least, has health insurance.) Also, the experiences of film and TV production have proven to the American entertainment industry that there are reasonably safe ways of following Covid protocols and ensuring the safety of all involved. So no, Americans wouldn't be shocked to see that an orchestra can play music safely SO LONG AS THERE IS NOT AN AUDIENCE that might spread the disease. Ryhog hit some of the other points of nonsense very well. But whatever, keep ranting, we know who's really doing the planting. |
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| re: "It turns out that the American theater has no towering figure even attempting to lead it through this crisis, the way Andrew Lloyd Webber has in Britain. " | |
| Posted by: sirpupnyc 11:42 pm EST 03/11/21 | |
| In reply to: re: "It turns out that the American theater has no towering figure even attempting to lead it through this crisis, the way Andrew Lloyd Webber has in Britain. " - Singapore/Fling 10:14 pm EST 03/11/21 | |
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| an orchestra can play music safely SO LONG AS THERE IS NOT AN AUDIENCE And they're doing pieces for smaller ensembles, or chamber arrangements, or paring down from typical string sections. And spacing out the players in ways that would be difficult with an audience in the hall. I've heard a lot of concerts on BBC Radio 3, and they're all tossing out their planned programs to adapt. (And that's another difficulty for US ensembles: weak national/regional broadcasting. Even if our ensembles could reprogram and assemble to suit applicable guidelines, most have no guaranteed broadcast outlet and would be on their own for the technical aspects. Few have an existing apparatus to reach an audience outside their hall.) |
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| re: "It turns out that the American theater has no towering figure even attempting to lead it through this crisis, the way Andrew Lloyd Webber has in Britain. " | |
| Posted by: ryhog 09:05 am EST 03/11/21 | |
| In reply to: re: "It turns out that the American theater has no towering figure even attempting to lead it through this crisis, the way Andrew Lloyd Webber has in Britain. " - NewtonUK 06:22 am EST 03/11/21 | |
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| "hysteria continues to abound in America" No, it does not, and no, we will not learn a lot from the UK. What you seem to want to "learn" is based on notions external to Covid. 1. Reopening schedule: apples and oranges. We will of course have staggered reopening, but the idea of "full reopening" [assuming that you mean no theatre will be dark] by September is beyond naive for the simple reason that Broadway cannot fully return without tourists, whereas the West End can. 2. Union deals: apples and oranges. Two countries, two different sets of laws, two different bargaining positions. The topic of this thread is helping workers be safe and secure. Only if one wakes up every morning with anti-union bias could one think it is good (and fair) to superimpose some government mandate [is that really what you are saying?] on what labor unions can insist on in the protection of its members. 3. Live, audience-free performances: Apples and oranges. We have protocols in place for live performances without audiences (and even with limited audiences). That's not the reason we don't have them [and you know it]. Who is going to pay for these performances at the Met or Philharmonic? We do not have (meaningful and significant) government support for either institution. Have a look at the financial statements for the performances you mention if you really need this explained to you. 4. Protocols in place. See above. BTW we have no 12 foot rule. Next time, a few more demonstrable facts and a few less untethered fantasies would be a welcome innovation. |
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