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| re: With all due respect, your post is schizophrenic.... | |
| Posted by: KingSpeed 02:43 pm EST 03/12/21 | |
| In reply to: With all due respect, your post is schizophrenic.... - ShowGoer 10:30 am EST 03/12/21 | |
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| Schizophrenia is a real thing that has nothing to do with his post. I’m a little offended by your use of the word. There are more accurate words for what he posted. | |
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| re: With all due respect, your post is schizophrenic.... | |
| Posted by: ryhog 03:30 pm EST 03/12/21 | |
| In reply to: re: With all due respect, your post is schizophrenic.... - KingSpeed 02:43 pm EST 03/12/21 | |
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| Thanks for posting that. I was inclined to post something similar and then I decided that it might sound like I was deflecting and/or presumptuous. | |
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| This is why I so rarely post online. | |
| Posted by: ShowGoer 06:23 pm EST 03/12/21 | |
| In reply to: re: With all due respect, your post is schizophrenic.... - ryhog 03:30 pm EST 03/12/21 | |
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| One of the most recent times I worked as an actor I had a director tell me, in front of a room full of people and with a sense of humor, that the way I was playing the character was schizophrenic. I laughed, the room laughed, and certainly no one took it seriously. (And he wasn’t wrong- obviously not in a literally sense, but in a metaphorical one... adjustments were made accordingly.) No one I knew was offended, and (as far as I know) that included two people in the cast who suffered from depression and one who had more serious mental illness in their family. That was just a few years ago so while I realize times are changing, I do sometimes wonder if the world is losing its sense of humor and/or perspective, not specifically with regard to mental health - a serious issue to be sure - but in general. That being said, I know tone gets lost on social media, and we all mistakes, and we all can learn and grow. I hope it’s clear that not only was I not literally calling ryhog schizophrenic, I furthermore didn’t mean to make light of mental illness in any way. I apologize if I did. And tone gets lost over social media, so I’m sorry if I seemed flippant. I also admire KingSpeed for your work helping others with their problems. |
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| re: This is why I so rarely post online. | |
| Posted by: ryhog 07:39 pm EST 03/12/21 | |
| In reply to: This is why I so rarely post online. - ShowGoer 06:23 pm EST 03/12/21 | |
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| I understood you were not being literal and I think you have both fleshed out this subject in a good and thoughtful way that, from my perspective, enriches the discussion. | |
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| re: This is why I so rarely post online. | |
| Last Edit: KingSpeed 07:28 pm EST 03/12/21 | |
| Posted by: KingSpeed 07:25 pm EST 03/12/21 | |
| In reply to: This is why I so rarely post online. - ShowGoer 06:23 pm EST 03/12/21 | |
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| Thanks, SG. Like I said, I was hesitant but felt compelled to ultimately say something. I have a great sense of humor. (Schitt’s Creek is hilarious). I don’t think it’s fair to say people don’t have one because they want people to be considerate. Saying it’s ok because there were 2 people in the cast who dealt with mental illness is like someone saying he’s not racist because he has lots of black friends. I don’t buy it. Another pet peeve is when people say “the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.” Um no it’s not. | |
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| re: With all due respect, your post is schizophrenic.... | |
| Posted by: KingSpeed 04:50 pm EST 03/12/21 | |
| In reply to: re: With all due respect, your post is schizophrenic.... - ryhog 03:30 pm EST 03/12/21 | |
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| Yes, I hesitated too but it did bother me esp since I’m mentally ill myself and I work at a mental hospital. | |
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| While I appreciate your sensitivity, I have a different view | |
| Posted by: Quicheo 11:39 am EDT 03/15/21 | |
| In reply to: re: With all due respect, your post is schizophrenic.... - KingSpeed 04:50 pm EST 03/12/21 | |
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| For background, I am a psychiatrist and brain researcher. I also have mental illness and several illnesses, including several Federally defined "Serious Mental Illnesses", run in my family--and members of my family have been working in the psychological fields since the 1930s. We are fun at parties. Thanksgiving at our house is...challenging for new romantic partners. There is a difference between the term "schizophrenic" and "Schizophrenia". One is a descriptor that indicates a disjointed "split" presentation, seeming to come from two places at once. One is an illness, originally tied to the term "schizophrenic" because of the seeming state of having a split mind within one brain. "Schizophrenic" has a life outside of "Schizophrenia" though, just as "depressed", "manic", "anxious", "obsessive", "compulsive", "defiant", "conduct', "antisocial", "organic", and myriad other terms do, while also being part of the basis for names of mental illnesses. I would hate to diminish the richness of our language because of mental health stigma. And it is, on some level, stigma. We can joke about something increasing our blood pressure or causing us to feel faint or work as back-breaking or mind-numbing. We joke about these things because they are shared parts of the human condition. So is mental illness. I hope we can get to a point where we are comfortable using terms of mental states as metaphor as well as diagnosis, because then they will be given proper place in the shared experience of life. That said, your heart is certainly in the right place. And I mean that metaphorically. And hopefully literally. |
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