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| St. Louis Woman Original Broadway Cast Recording Question | |
| Posted by: RufusRed 03:12 pm EDT 03/17/21 | |
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| I recently discovered the wonderful Arlen/Mercer score from 1946 sung by Pearl Bailey, Harold and Fayard Nicholas, etc but I was struck at there being only 11 songs with no overture. I saw on iTunes the 1998 recording with Vanessa Williams that had 21 tracks, including the overture and 2 reprises of Come Rain or Come Shine. Was this because of the limitations of vinyl or are these newly discovered songs? | |
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| re: St. Louis Woman Original Broadway Cast Recording Question | |
| Posted by: larry13 09:07 pm EDT 03/17/21 | |
| In reply to: St. Louis Woman Original Broadway Cast Recording Question - RufusRed 03:12 pm EDT 03/17/21 | |
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| I was listening to both CDs just recently. Good as the Encores cast is--and obviously the completeness makes it necessary--if you're at all a fan of this brilliant score, you owe it to yourself to also have the OBCR. And not just for Pearl Bailey. The wonderful singing and personalities of everyone leap off that recording. | |
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| re: St. Louis Woman Original Broadway Cast Recording Question | |
| Posted by: Billhaven 10:53 pm EDT 03/17/21 | |
| In reply to: re: St. Louis Woman Original Broadway Cast Recording Question - larry13 09:07 pm EDT 03/17/21 | |
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| Of course i love Pearlie Mae, who doesn't? But I have to say that Yvette Cason puts a contemporary spin on her songs with just the right amount of insouciant swing. | |
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| Yvette Cason | |
| Posted by: reed23 04:50 am EDT 03/18/21 | |
| In reply to: re: St. Louis Woman Original Broadway Cast Recording Question - Billhaven 10:53 pm EDT 03/17/21 | |
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| Yvette Cason is sensational on the Encores album, which is indispensable if you want to hear shimmering orchestrations, restored and greatly improved by Ralph Burns and Luther Henderson. The originals were by a fleet of orchestrators led by Ted Royal, who was never in the top tier and whose sound has not aged well. |
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| re: St. Louis Woman Original Broadway Cast Recording Question | |
| Posted by: BroadwayTonyJ 09:50 pm EDT 03/17/21 | |
| In reply to: re: St. Louis Woman Original Broadway Cast Recording Question - larry13 09:07 pm EDT 03/17/21 | |
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| The vocals of Harold Nicholas, Ruby Hill, June Hawkins, Ricard Pope, and, of course, Pearl Bailey are irreplaceable. | |
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| re: St. Louis Woman Original Broadway Cast Recording Question | |
| Posted by: RufusRed 12:40 pm EDT 03/18/21 | |
| In reply to: re: St. Louis Woman Original Broadway Cast Recording Question - BroadwayTonyJ 09:50 pm EDT 03/17/21 | |
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| 100% agree. And I'd never heard "Anyplace I Hang My Hat..." in context and it really needs the chorus which adds to the fabric of that wonderful song. I first heard it sung by Streisand who of course I love and I have an emotional connection to her rendition but I believe I prefer the original. | |
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| re: St. Louis Woman Original Broadway Cast Recording Question | |
| Posted by: Michael_Portantiere 03:24 pm EDT 03/17/21 | |
| In reply to: St. Louis Woman Original Broadway Cast Recording Question - RufusRed 03:12 pm EDT 03/17/21 | |
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| Since the original recording was first issued in 1946, 78 rpm records would have been the only option for the original release, and those albums tended to have less material than LPs because of the multiple records necessary, not to mention the severe limitations for each side of each 78rpm record. That accounts for the fact that cast albums originally released on 78s generally tended to have considerably less material than those first issued during the LP era, just as albums first issued during the LP era tended to be shorter than those first issued during the CD era. I assume that's the main reason why the ST. LOUIS WOMAN album is so short, although I believe some cast albums originally released as 78s were at least a little bit longer. | |
| Link | ST. LOUIS WOMAN - castalbumreviews.com |
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| re: St. Louis Woman Original Broadway Cast Recording Question | |
| Posted by: NewtonUK 03:42 pm EDT 03/17/21 | |
| In reply to: re: St. Louis Woman Original Broadway Cast Recording Question - Michael_Portantiere 03:24 pm EDT 03/17/21 | |
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| Michael, I used to go to my Aunt's house in L.A. and spend a weekend, and listen to her cast albums - all on 78s. The albums with 12" rather than 10" 78s played 30 seconds longer on each side. OKLAHOMA was a six 12" lp set, 12 songs each running around 3.5 minutes. Lonely Room, Farmer and the Cowhand, and Its A Scandal were not recorded - nor was the 'Out of my Dreams ballet." |
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| re: St. Louis Woman Original Broadway Cast Recording Question | |
| Posted by: mermaniac 09:50 pm EDT 03/17/21 | |
| In reply to: re: St. Louis Woman Original Broadway Cast Recording Question - NewtonUK 03:42 pm EDT 03/17/21 | |
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| My parents had those Oklahoma 78s, and that's what started it all for me ! Sitting on the floor on 7th Avenue in South Brooklyn when I was about 7 years old. I've been hooked ever since ! | |
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| My Introduction to Original Broadway Cast Recordings | |
| Posted by: BroadwayTonyJ 10:14 pm EDT 03/17/21 | |
| In reply to: re: St. Louis Woman Original Broadway Cast Recording Question - mermaniac 09:50 pm EDT 03/17/21 | |
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| My aunt and uncle were the only ones in our family who had a hi-fi system, which could play LPs. They saw the General Foods TV Variety special in 1954 with Ezio Pinza and Mary Martin singing "Some Enchanted Evening" and bought the South Pacific OBC album. I used to sit on their family room floor when I was 6 years old listening to "Bali Hai" until I memorized it. | |
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| re: My Introduction to Original Broadway Cast Recordings | |
| Posted by: mermaniac 04:08 pm EDT 03/19/21 | |
| In reply to: My Introduction to Original Broadway Cast Recordings - BroadwayTonyJ 10:14 pm EDT 03/17/21 | |
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| Broadway brothers under the skin, Tony ! | |
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| re: St. Louis Woman Original Broadway Cast Recording Question | |
| Posted by: Michael_Portantiere 03:57 pm EDT 03/17/21 | |
| In reply to: re: St. Louis Woman Original Broadway Cast Recording Question - NewtonUK 03:42 pm EDT 03/17/21 | |
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| Right. And then there was a second volume of the OKLAHOMA! cast album that included the three songs you mentioned but not the ballet, plus I believe a "finale" that was specifically constructed for the recording. "Lonely Room" was sung by Alfred Drake, not Howard Da Silva. | |
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| Howard Da Silva and Cast Recordings | |
| Last Edit: BroadwayTonyJ 06:18 pm EDT 03/17/21 | |
| Posted by: BroadwayTonyJ 06:17 pm EDT 03/17/21 | |
| In reply to: re: St. Louis Woman Original Broadway Cast Recording Question - Michael_Portantiere 03:57 pm EDT 03/17/21 | |
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| Apparently Da Silva had already left Oklahoma! when Volume 2 was recorded so Alfred Drake stepped in for that song. Ironically Da Silva also missed the recording session for the 1776 cast album because of his heart attack. I've always hoped that some day Sony will re-master 1776 and release the film soundtrack as well, making it a double CD package. I love Da Silva's inimitable characterizations on all his recordings, especially Fiorello!. | |
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| re: St. Louis Woman Original Broadway Cast Recording Question | |
| Posted by: NewtonUK 05:18 pm EDT 03/17/21 | |
| In reply to: re: St. Louis Woman Original Broadway Cast Recording Question - Michael_Portantiere 03:57 pm EDT 03/17/21 | |
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| An early version of DVD extras so to speak. Of course the 78RPM OBC I seemed to listen to the most was the 6 12" disc recording of SONG OF NORWAY ... go figure! | |
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| re: St. Louis Woman Original Broadway Cast Recording Question | |
| Posted by: NewtonUK 03:23 pm EDT 03/17/21 | |
| In reply to: St. Louis Woman Original Broadway Cast Recording Question - RufusRed 03:12 pm EDT 03/17/21 | |
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| It was Capitol's 1st OBC recording, originally issued on 5 - 10" 78rpm records. So they were limited to 10 numbers , each no longer than 3 minutes. | |
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