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| re: How did Richard Burton not win the Oscar for "Virginia Woolf?" | |
| Posted by: ryhog 05:04 pm EDT 03/24/21 | |
| In reply to: How did Richard Burton not win the Oscar for "Virginia Woolf?" - Jax 12:15 pm EDT 03/24/21 | |
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| I don't know, in part because at that time I was too young for the likes of Woolf (Sound of Music would have been adventurous) but I know that at the some point 'the couple" started to become tedious (offstage). Is it possible that this could have had an effect at that time, the people would have wanted to avoid awarding the couple? | |
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| re: How did Richard Burton not win the Oscar for "Virginia Woolf?" | |
| Posted by: keikekaze 07:06 pm EDT 03/24/21 | |
| In reply to: re: How did Richard Burton not win the Oscar for "Virginia Woolf?" - ryhog 05:04 pm EDT 03/24/21 | |
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| I was 17 in 1967, and I don't think there was any determined attempt to "snub" Burton/Taylor at the Oscars (Taylor did win, after all). But nobody was going to beat Paul Scofield for Best Actor that year, nor A Man For All Seasons for Best Picture. The Bolt play had been a smash hit on both sides of the Atlantic, and what's more was regarded as the "prestige hit" not only of its season but pretty much of the whole decade. Schools (including mine) made special bus trips to take kids to absorb this "painless history lesson / lesson in good citizenship." That's what the Academy has always rewarded with the major Oscars--lessons in good citizenship clothed in "prestigious" garb. Scofield's performance also had the cachet of being "the latest thing," whereas people had seen Burton being brilliant--and less than brilliant--before. | |
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| re: How did Richard Burton not win the Oscar for "Virginia Woolf?" | |
| Posted by: ryhog 07:42 pm EDT 03/24/21 | |
| In reply to: re: How did Richard Burton not win the Oscar for "Virginia Woolf?" - keikekaze 07:06 pm EDT 03/24/21 | |
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| Thanks to both of you. As I said, I was just guessing/wondering. At some point my sense is that they became what today would have been tabloid fodder or, more likely, a couple who were blowing up the internet (a la Kanye/Kim but with a lot more talent). His talent, of course, was prodigious. | |
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| re: How did Richard Burton not win the Oscar for "Virginia Woolf?" | |
| Last Edit: BroadwayTonyJ 06:58 pm EDT 03/24/21 | |
| Posted by: BroadwayTonyJ 06:51 pm EDT 03/24/21 | |
| In reply to: re: How did Richard Burton not win the Oscar for "Virginia Woolf?" - ryhog 05:04 pm EDT 03/24/21 | |
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| I was a senior in high school when the film of Virginia Woolf opened. I used to follow the Academy Awards pretty rabidly back then. It was Burton's 5th Oscar nomination in a span of 15 years so he could have won for that fact alone. He was easily one of Hollywood's greatest film actors in 1966. However, both Paul Scofield and A Man for All Seasons were heavily favored to win -- both actor and play had won the top Tony in '63. I do remember Burton being strongly criticized in the press for doing a lot of crap films (The Bramble Bush, Ice Palace, The Sandpiper) in between the excellent ones (Look Back in Anger, Becket, The Spy Who Came in from the Cold). In fact in response to the criticism, he actually admitted that some of the movies he made were "shitty films" while pointing out that they made a lot of money. He also stated that he made them because he wanted "to get rich". There's no question he was refreshingly honest. Of course, at some time during that period ('52 through '69), he should have taken home the Oscar but just like John Barrymore, Irene Dunne, Cary Grant, Peter O'Toole, and others, it just didn't happen. At least Grant and O'Toole were given an honorary one. If Burton hadn't died at such an early age, he too most likely would have received that type of award. |
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| re: How did Richard Burton not win the Oscar for "Virginia Woolf?" | |
| Last Edit: WaymanWong 07:35 pm EDT 03/24/21 | |
| Posted by: WaymanWong 07:35 pm EDT 03/24/21 | |
| In reply to: re: How did Richard Burton not win the Oscar for "Virginia Woolf?" - BroadwayTonyJ 06:51 pm EDT 03/24/21 | |
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| Richard Burton got his 7th (and last) Oscar nomination for ''Equus'' (1977). He told friends that he really wanted to win it, having lost 6 times before. And Burton did win the Golden Globe for Best Actor in a Drama, often a precursor for that season's Oscar winner. So I can only imagine his hurt and disappointment when the envelope was opened at the Academy Awards, and it was announced that the winner was ''Richard,'' but not ''Richard Burton,'' but ''Richard Dreyfuss'' for ''The Goodbye Girl.'' Such are the vagaries of awards. Some are fortunate to win on their first try, while others can be nominated multiple times and never win. |
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| Glenn close has 8 nominations. | |
| Posted by: dramedy 08:55 pm EDT 03/24/21 | |
| In reply to: re: How did Richard Burton not win the Oscar for "Virginia Woolf?" - WaymanWong 07:35 pm EDT 03/24/21 | |
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| She probably has a good chance this year in winning supporting actress category with hillbilly elegy. | |
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| re: Glenn close has 8 nominations. | |
| Posted by: Roman 11:28 pm EDT 03/24/21 | |
| In reply to: Glenn close has 8 nominations. - dramedy 08:55 pm EDT 03/24/21 | |
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| After Dangerous Liaisons? Fatal Atrraction? The Natural? Big Chill? Albert Nobbs? The Wife? Garp? Tinning an Oscar for this crap? What an insult. She herself has mocked the Oscars, particularly for giving the award to Gwenythbover Fernanda Montenegro (indeed, the greatest Oscar crime since Judy in 1954). It’s Yuh-Jung Youn’s to lose. |
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| But can she Close the deal this time? | |
| Posted by: WaymanWong 09:41 pm EDT 03/24/21 | |
| In reply to: Glenn close has 8 nominations. - dramedy 08:55 pm EDT 03/24/21 | |
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| I wonder why Close didn't win for her 7th Oscar bid (for ''The Wife''). She WON the precursor prizes: SAG, the Golden Globe and Critics' Choice. (I'm not a fan of ''Hillbilly Elegy,'' which has earned Close an Oscar AND Razzie nomination. I'd rather see her win for ''Sunset Blvd.'' someday.) |
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| No. | |
| Posted by: Roman 11:31 pm EDT 03/24/21 | |
| In reply to: But can she Close the deal this time? - WaymanWong 09:41 pm EDT 03/24/21 | |
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| She’s a total ham. And while other hams have won before, it’s Yuh-Jung Youn‘s to lose (for one of the greatest supporting performances in recent memory). Really, awarding Glenn Close for “Hillbilly Elegy” after Dangerous Liaisons? Garp? Fatal Attraction? What an insult. |
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