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Equity Issues New Safety Protocols
Posted by: dbdbdb 11:11 am EDT 04/05/21

They assume that everyone working on a production is vaccinated. Some of the more onerous requirements, like the ban on public transportation, are gone. This might help goose things along...
Link http://bway.ly/86ikxk#https://broadwaynews.com/2021/04/02/actors-equity-releases-new-safety-protocols-for-vaccinated-productions/
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Don’t have any Health Insurance? The Producer must pay if you get sick! Ridiculous!
Posted by: TheHarveyBoy 04:11 pm EDT 04/05/21
In reply to: Equity Issues New Safety Protocols - dbdbdb 11:11 am EDT 04/05/21

I can't imagine any producer being willing to take on that liability.
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re: Don’t have any Health Insurance? The Producer must pay if you get sick! Ridiculous!
Posted by: ryhog 05:18 pm EDT 04/05/21
In reply to: Don’t have any Health Insurance? The Producer must pay if you get sick! Ridiculous! - TheHarveyBoy 04:11 pm EDT 04/05/21

you may have already realized the error of your ways, but I'll just add two comments. First, what's ridiculous is that everyone in this country does not automatically have health insurance as in every other civilized country in the world. Second, this is not about "getting sick," it is about workplace injury. It is not a radical idea that when your health is compromised at work, your employer pays. Even the lowliest bodega has workers' comp insurance. What were you thinking?
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That would be another tax break for corporate America
Posted by: dramedy 08:03 pm EDT 04/05/21
In reply to: re: Don’t have any Health Insurance? The Producer must pay if you get sick! Ridiculous! - ryhog 05:18 pm EDT 04/05/21

If they don’t have to pay for employee health insurance. You know that Congress won’t charge them for the savings they will benefit by having gov pay for universal health care. And corporations won’t give that money saved directly to their employees.
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re: That would be another tax break for corporate America
Posted by: Singapore/Fling 12:02 am EDT 04/06/21
In reply to: That would be another tax break for corporate America - dramedy 08:03 pm EDT 04/05/21

It's equally plausible this would go in line with tax hikes on corporations. The new administration is doing what it can to make the reality where multinationals are required to pay their fair share of taxes.

And I think this in an on-topic thought because the economics of big business are also the economics of theater, and our theatrical culture would be radically different if it wasn't reliant on the largesse of the rich and very rich.

And there's a straight line from that to the endless complaining on this board about how a Broadway has turned into a theme park by the same people who espouse the economic gospel that made it a theme park.

So I'm not a moderator, but I think we're taking about this in good faith within a theater context.
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re: That would be another tax break for corporate America
Posted by: ryhog 08:39 pm EDT 04/05/21
In reply to: That would be another tax break for corporate America - dramedy 08:03 pm EDT 04/05/21

this is not the place to flesh this out, but that is not the dynamic.
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re: Don’t have any Health Insurance? The Producer must pay if you get sick! Ridiculous!
Posted by: Singapore/Fling 06:03 pm EDT 04/05/21
In reply to: re: Don’t have any Health Insurance? The Producer must pay if you get sick! Ridiculous! - ryhog 05:18 pm EDT 04/05/21

"First, what's ridiculous is that everyone in this country does not automatically have health insurance as in every other civilized country in the world."

Hear hear! This is also, I think, one reason why producing theater in the West End is significantly cheaper than in the US.
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Who would ever expect an employer to pay for their employees' health insurance?!
Last Edit: Singapore/Fling 04:31 pm EDT 04/05/21
Posted by: Singapore/Fling 04:31 pm EDT 04/05/21
In reply to: Don’t have any Health Insurance? The Producer must pay if you get sick! Ridiculous! - TheHarveyBoy 04:11 pm EDT 04/05/21

I mean, the nerve of these actors, asking to be covered by their employer for workplace-related illness and injuries. This is practically socialism!
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Isn’t health insurance through the union
Last Edit: dramedy 04:56 pm EDT 04/05/21
Posted by: dramedy 04:54 pm EDT 04/05/21
In reply to: Who would ever expect an employer to pay for their employees' health insurance?! - Singapore/Fling 04:31 pm EDT 04/05/21

And not the producers (llc). I assume the producers contribute to the health insurance premium through the union contract. Is the flu or related type illness a work place injury like a set falling on an actor that would require the production company insurance coverage. I believe Congress eliminated the mandate for health insurance so no one can assume all actors are covered when working. My insurance is partially paid by employer and rest by me. I can opt out of it (especially if I’m covered by spouse family plan).
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re: Isn’t health insurance through the union
Last Edit: Singapore/Fling 06:05 pm EDT 04/05/21
Posted by: Singapore/Fling 06:01 pm EDT 04/05/21
In reply to: Isn’t health insurance through the union - dramedy 04:54 pm EDT 04/05/21

Health insurance is provided by the union, but the item that I think was being pointed to is that the producers are expected to pay for medications related to Covid (there was nothing in the article that mentioned insurance). I believe getting the flu wouldn't generally be a workplace injury, but in this case I think it's reasonable to make the exception.

But also, even in normal years, the flu rages through the Broadway community because performers are routinely packed together in dressing rooms and in the wings, are on the receiving end of other people's projectile spit, and are touching or being touched by each other or on surfaces that others have touched quite often in the course of a show... so, perhaps we should start treating all illnesses of this sort as workplace injuries.
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re: Isn’t health insurance through the union
Posted by: ryhog 06:17 pm EDT 04/05/21
In reply to: re: Isn’t health insurance through the union - Singapore/Fling 06:01 pm EDT 04/05/21

There are, so far as I can tell from what I am reading , two things at play: actors who do not qualify for health insurance because they have not logged enough weeks (a particularly acute issue right now) and who would be covered as workers' comp, and people who are not sick but are isolating due to possible exposure. I don't think it is at all likely this would ever be extended to the flu because "covid is not a bad case of the flu."
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re: Isn’t health insurance through the union
Posted by: Singapore/Fling 06:22 pm EDT 04/05/21
In reply to: re: Isn’t health insurance through the union - ryhog 06:17 pm EDT 04/05/21

If someone hasn't logged enough weeks but then get a contract, would they still not have insurance through Equity? Or would they have to wait until the next year for the insurance to kick in?

God, healthcare is such a disaster in this country...
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re: Isn’t health insurance through the union
Posted by: TheHarveyBoy 06:31 am EDT 04/08/21
In reply to: re: Isn’t health insurance through the union - Singapore/Fling 06:22 pm EDT 04/05/21

I believe that an actor has to work 12 weeks in any six months in order to have health insurance coverage the FOLLOWING six months. So, working on a show from January 1 to March 23 gets you six months' coverage starting July 1. Not much good if you get sick in April, or January for that matter.
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re: Item not mentioned in Equity Issues New Safety Protocols
Posted by: Dale 02:06 pm EDT 04/05/21
In reply to: Equity Issues New Safety Protocols - dbdbdb 11:11 am EDT 04/05/21

Bathrooms
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re: Item not mentioned in Equity Issues New Safety Protocols
Posted by: ryhog 02:34 pm EDT 04/05/21
In reply to: re: Item not mentioned in Equity Issues New Safety Protocols - Dale 02:06 pm EDT 04/05/21

"The theater, as well as the rehearsal area, must undergo daily cleaning and cleanings between performances on two-show days" would, presumably, not exclude the bathrooms.
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Indeed, and in fact...
Last Edit: MockingbirdGirl 04:35 pm EDT 04/05/21
Posted by: MockingbirdGirl 04:34 pm EDT 04/05/21
In reply to: re: Item not mentioned in Equity Issues New Safety Protocols - ryhog 02:34 pm EDT 04/05/21

... I'd rather hoped that daily bathroom cleaning was a thing even before Covid! O_o
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re: Indeed, and in fact...
Last Edit: singleticket 05:23 pm EDT 04/05/21
Posted by: singleticket 05:19 pm EDT 04/05/21
In reply to: Indeed, and in fact... - MockingbirdGirl 04:34 pm EDT 04/05/21

Some of those theater bathrooms have grout mold dating from the original production of OKLAHOMA.
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re: Item not mentioned in Equity Issues New Safety Protocols
Posted by: Bwayguy 03:05 pm EDT 04/05/21
In reply to: re: Item not mentioned in Equity Issues New Safety Protocols - ryhog 02:34 pm EDT 04/05/21

Equity came out with the protocols one day too late it seems as CDC says cleaning is just "hygiene theater", no pun intended.
Link https://www.yahoo.com/news/end-the-hygiene-theater-cdc-says-173440864.html
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re: Item not mentioned in Equity Issues New Safety Protocols
Posted by: dbdbdb 05:16 pm EDT 04/05/21
In reply to: re: Item not mentioned in Equity Issues New Safety Protocols - Bwayguy 03:05 pm EDT 04/05/21

I think there's every reason to believe these guidelines will be revised and revised again as circumstances change, infection numbers drop, and more scientific data becomes available.
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