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| You just want to bring your water bottle back into the theater | |
| Posted by: dramedy 12:20 pm EDT 04/07/21 | |
| In reply to: re: Is Scott Rudin about to be Cancelled? - sirpupnyc 12:17 pm EDT 04/07/21 | |
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| I know I do. | |
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| re: You just want to bring your water bottle back into the theater | |
| Posted by: manchurch03104 07:38 am EDT 04/08/21 | |
| In reply to: You just want to bring your water bottle back into the theater - dramedy 12:20 pm EDT 04/07/21 | |
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| best comment in this thread. thank you. | |
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| re: You just want to bring your water bottle back into the theater | |
| Posted by: Singapore/Fling 04:33 pm EDT 04/08/21 | |
| In reply to: re: You just want to bring your water bottle back into the theater - manchurch03104 07:38 am EDT 04/08/21 | |
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| Yeah, let's ignore industry-wide verbal and physical abuse and instead complain about not being able to carry wasteful plastic bottles into the theater. | |
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| re: You just want to bring your water bottle back into the theater | |
| Posted by: Chromolume 10:15 pm EDT 04/08/21 | |
| In reply to: re: You just want to bring your water bottle back into the theater - Singapore/Fling 04:33 pm EDT 04/08/21 | |
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| Somehow this argument feels very different now that Georgia voters are prohibited from having water (or at least buying it) while waiting in long lines to vote on hot days. | |
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| re: You just want to bring your water bottle back into the theater | |
| Posted by: Singapore/Fling 11:55 pm EDT 04/08/21 | |
| In reply to: re: You just want to bring your water bottle back into the theater - Chromolume 10:15 pm EDT 04/08/21 | |
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| Mic drop. | |
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| re: You just want to bring your water bottle back into the theater | |
| Posted by: Singapore/Fling 11:00 pm EDT 04/07/21 | |
| In reply to: You just want to bring your water bottle back into the theater - dramedy 12:20 pm EDT 04/07/21 | |
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| Did the Rudin shows allow durable, reusable water bottles? My memory is that they did. | |
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| re: You just want to bring your water bottle back into the theater | |
| Posted by: BroadwayTonyJ 05:26 am EDT 04/08/21 | |
| In reply to: re: You just want to bring your water bottle back into the theater - Singapore/Fling 11:00 pm EDT 04/07/21 | |
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| For years I was allowed to bring a small mug into the theater as long as it was empty and clean. I never hid it. I would always show it to the door guard before entering and then keep it in my jacket pocket. One time (I don't remember the show or theater) I was not allowed to have it with me in the theater so I had to check it with someone and then get it back after the show. My routine was to arrive at the theater maybe 45 minutes before showtime, drink a mug of coffee outside, clean and dry it before entering the building, and then at intermission (if I was thirsty) get some water from the drinking fountain and have a few swallows before act 2. Beginning in 2011 (when I switched from hotels to airbnb) I usually stayed at a guy's apartment close to the theater, drank my coffee at his place, and then hustled over to the theater, arriving maybe 15 minutes before showtime. I rarely (if ever) bought any food or drink at the theater with the exception of maybe a roll of candy. Are bottles of water no longer sold at the bar or was that practice discontinued years ago? |
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| It was never the same story twice. | |
| Posted by: ShowGoer 11:20 pm EDT 04/07/21 | |
| In reply to: re: You just want to bring your water bottle back into the theater - Singapore/Fling 11:00 pm EDT 04/07/21 | |
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| One time it was “no outside food or drink, period” and another time I saw them try to confiscate someone’s durable water bottle saying “you can’t have anything that could be used as a weapon.” One time (The Front Page) we were told “Nathan Lane doesn’t like the water bottles crinkling when he acts” (never mind that the candy they sell makes 5X as much noise); but when we saw “Gary”, suddenly Nathan Lane apparently had no trouble with plastic water bottles, but because “it’s a short show” they basically came right out and said that the producer wanted us to buy his water. Enough already. This water nonsense is a drop in the bucket (no pun intended) of the myriad issues people have with Rudin, to say nothing of what’s going on in the world as a whole. But this is one time where if cancel culture is coming for the guy, it sounds like it’s long overdue, and in this instance I’m totally here for it. |
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| You know, now that you mention it – I've gotten so much money back from his shows because of this. | |
| Last Edit: ShowGoer 12:40 pm EDT 04/07/21 | |
| Posted by: ShowGoer 12:33 pm EDT 04/07/21 | |
| In reply to: You just want to bring your water bottle back into the theater - dramedy 12:20 pm EDT 04/07/21 | |
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| "The Front Page", "Hello Dolly", "Meteor Shower", "Three Tall Women", "The Iceman Cometh", "The Waverly Gallery", "Hillary and Clinton", "King Lear", "Gary", and "The Inheritance", if I remember right. All were subject to credit card disputes that I launched when my the water bottle and those of the party I was with were confiscated at the door – in each case I called Telecharge to notify them of why I was disputing part of the ticket charge, in every single case I was told by Telecharge that that shouldn't have happened, in each case I received an apology, in each case was promised it wouldn't happen again, in each case it did, and so in each case I filed a dispute again, all resolved without protest in my favor; $10 here, $20 here, $5 here, depending on how many people I was with and how many waters we had to surrender. Broadway as a rule lets you bring in water bottles with no other exceptions except his shows, and although he's involved with roughly 10% of the plays in a given season, I can't (and shouldn't have to be bothered) to check before I head to the theater and see whether his name is somewhere on a list of producers that will then prohibit me from being let in... especially when some of us have medical conditions that require us to stay hydrated (often for 4-to-6 hours during things like Lear, Iceman and Inheritance), and most especially when the ticket company, which is managed by the theater owners (Shubert) consistently tells me it shouldn't be happening in the first place and won't happen in the future. I'm guessing all told I've been refunded roughly $200-$225 over the past 4 or 5 years of theatergoing since he randomly instituted this policy at his shows. No idea who's paying for that in the final analysis, but I sure hope it's his production company. And while I've been criticized on here before for handling it this way, with someone saying 'rules are rules' and "this is the height of entitlement' – considering Telecharge keeps telling me it shouldn't be happening in the first place and they'll look into it, I don't think it's entitled at all. But if it is, then after reading this article, I've never been so comfortable with being called entitled. |
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| Posted by: NewtonUK 04:16 pm EDT 04/07/21 | |
| In reply to: You know, now that you mention it – I've gotten so much money back from his shows because of this. - ShowGoer 12:33 pm EDT 04/07/21 | |
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| ... even in summer, to have a big enough pocket somewhere to completely conceal the water bottle. They make those mini ones - bringing in two is easy! | |
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| re: You know, now that you mention it – I've gotten so much money back from his shows because of this. | |
| Posted by: Pokernight 03:48 pm EDT 04/07/21 | |
| In reply to: You know, now that you mention it – I've gotten so much money back from his shows because of this. - ShowGoer 12:33 pm EDT 04/07/21 | |
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| His abusive behavior in Hollywood has been known for YEARS, but nothing was done because of his successes. The only positive comment I've ever heard about him was that, as a young casting director, he was dedicated and conscientious. I've worked with some monsters, and I'll never understand why they feel they have to behave in that manner. Kevin Spacey's beastly character in "Swimming With Sharks" is mild compared to the real-life Rudin. It's time for an article like that. Past time! | |
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| re: You know, now that you mention it – I've gotten so much money back from his shows because of this. | |
| Posted by: Michael_Portantiere 03:17 pm EDT 04/07/21 | |
| In reply to: You know, now that you mention it – I've gotten so much money back from his shows because of this. - ShowGoer 12:33 pm EDT 04/07/21 | |
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| Good for you! I do wonder what would have happened if you had refused to surrender your water bottles, and then perhaps summoned the police when you then would presumably have been denied entrance to the theater. Did anything like this ever happen to you? I suppose not, or you would have mentioned it :-) Regardless, again: Good for you! |
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| I did object strongly | |
| Posted by: dramedy 04:18 pm EDT 04/07/21 | |
| In reply to: re: You know, now that you mention it – I've gotten so much money back from his shows because of this. - Michael_Portantiere 03:17 pm EDT 04/07/21 | |
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| But then I realized that I can’t shoot the messenger. They are only following orders. They probably could prevent you from entering the theater. And frankly, it’s not worth getting upset and ruining the show fuming about it. | |
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| re: I did object strongly | |
| Posted by: Michael_Portantiere 04:23 pm EDT 04/07/21 | |
| In reply to: I did object strongly - dramedy 04:18 pm EDT 04/07/21 | |
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| Understood, thanks. I'm glad you didn't just let it pass, and sought and received compensation. I admire you very much for that. | |
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| I’ve had a few taken | |
| Posted by: dramedy 02:13 pm EDT 04/07/21 | |
| In reply to: You know, now that you mention it – I've gotten so much money back from his shows because of this. - ShowGoer 12:33 pm EDT 04/07/21 | |
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| And they were reused bottles—not new. It’s annoying and unnecessary since I only drink some water at intermission or after the show. | |
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| Ha. | |
| Posted by: sirpupnyc 12:30 pm EDT 04/07/21 | |
| In reply to: You just want to bring your water bottle back into the theater - dramedy 12:20 pm EDT 04/07/21 | |
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| Very much not that. | |
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