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re: Is Scott Rudin about to be Cancelled?
Posted by: Chromolume 08:26 pm EDT 04/07/21
In reply to: Is Scott Rudin about to be Cancelled? - StageLover 11:59 am EDT 04/07/21

Just my $.02 - I wish we would stop with this whole "cancel" thing.
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I prefer the term from "The Magnificent Ambersons" of "getting his comeuppance"
Posted by: PlayWiz 01:25 am EDT 04/08/21
In reply to: re: Is Scott Rudin about to be Cancelled? - Chromolume 08:26 pm EDT 04/07/21

which happens to the spoiled brat George in the film.
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re: Is Scott Rudin about to be Cancelled?
Posted by: Michael_Portantiere 12:28 am EDT 04/08/21
In reply to: re: Is Scott Rudin about to be Cancelled? - Chromolume 08:26 pm EDT 04/07/21

I myself has often objected to "canceling," as for example in the cases of Dr. Seuss and J.K. Rowling. But it depends on the context, and also, I think that word is very amorphous.

In this case, if canceling the person in question means embarrassing him to the point where he will never again be able to work in an office environment with other people, thereby preventing him from terrorizing his staff on a regular basis and sometimes physically attacking them by, for example, smashing a computer monitor on someone's hand, thus injuring them so severely that they require immediate medical attention......well, maybe that kind of "cancellation" is not such a bad thing.
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re: Is Scott Rudin about to be Cancelled?
Posted by: Chromolume 10:56 pm EDT 04/08/21
In reply to: re: Is Scott Rudin about to be Cancelled? - Michael_Portantiere 12:28 am EDT 04/08/21

I think you missed my point (for which I apologize for not being clearer). But since you yourself put the word "canceling" in scare quotes, you're actually making my point, lol. It's the now rampant politicization and misuse of the term that I'm complaining about. No one is "cancelling" anyone. Or, at least, we used to have more accurate, less hot-button terms for it. I just don't want to see that phrase used anymore,. It has already outstayed its welcome, and it has become essentially meaningless in its over-ubiquitous use.

In other words, let's please cancel "cancel" and be done with it. ;-)
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re: Is Scott Rudin about to be Cancelled?
Posted by: Michael_Portantiere 06:58 pm EDT 04/09/21
In reply to: re: Is Scott Rudin about to be Cancelled? - Chromolume 10:56 pm EDT 04/08/21

***It's the now rampant politicization and misuse of the term that I'm complaining about. No one is "cancelling" anyone. Or, at least, we used to have more accurate, less hot-button terms for it. I just don't want to see that phrase used anymore,. It has already outstayed its welcome, and it has become essentially meaningless in its over-ubiquitous use. In other words, let's please cancel "cancel" and be done with it. ;-)***

I completely agree, and that's part of what I meant when I commented that the words "cancel" and "canceling" are so amorphous.
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re: Is Scott Rudin about to be Cancelled?
Posted by: Singapore/Fling 11:54 pm EDT 04/08/21
In reply to: re: Is Scott Rudin about to be Cancelled? - Chromolume 10:56 pm EDT 04/08/21

And even within the common usage of the word cancelled, Dr. Seuss has not been cancelled - that's just right-wing propaganda nonsense.

Rowling's situation is more complicated, as she has lost a lot of fans and the Harry Potter IP has been somewhat damaged by her transphobia, but again, the outcry that she's been cancelled is simply a distraction from the racist right and its supporters to drum up anti-left hysteria.

Don't give them the clicks and don't repeat their lies.
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re: Is Scott Rudin about to be Cancelled?
Posted by: Chromolume 12:18 am EDT 04/09/21
In reply to: re: Is Scott Rudin about to be Cancelled? - Singapore/Fling 11:54 pm EDT 04/08/21

And even within the common usage of the word cancelled, Dr. Seuss has not been cancelled - that's just right-wing propaganda nonsense.

Right. Exactly my point, lol.
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re: Is Scott Rudin about to be Cancelled?
Posted by: Singapore/Fling 10:58 pm EDT 04/07/21
In reply to: re: Is Scott Rudin about to be Cancelled? - Chromolume 08:26 pm EDT 04/07/21

Agreed, it's a very simplistic way of approaching this situation, and it also presents the illusion that if we simply turn our backs on Rudin, that the problem of exploitation and abuse in our industry just goes away with a snap.
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Scott Rudin should be ashamed of his behavior
Posted by: FinalPerformance 01:54 pm EDT 04/08/21
In reply to: re: Is Scott Rudin about to be Cancelled? - Singapore/Fling 10:58 pm EDT 04/07/21

Not surprised Rudin got away with this outrageous behavior and glad it is now public knowledge.
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re: Is Scott Rudin about to be Cancelled?
Posted by: ryhog 08:48 pm EDT 04/07/21
In reply to: re: Is Scott Rudin about to be Cancelled? - Chromolume 08:26 pm EDT 04/07/21

I think I know the answer but do you mean the use of the term or something more? Maybe it would be better to spend $.04. :-)
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re: Is Scott Rudin about to be Cancelled?
Posted by: Chromolume 09:28 pm EDT 04/07/21
In reply to: re: Is Scott Rudin about to be Cancelled? - ryhog 08:48 pm EDT 04/07/21

I meant the use of the term. Thanks. :-)
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re: Is Scott Rudin about to be Cancelled?
Posted by: ryhog 11:43 pm EDT 04/07/21
In reply to: re: Is Scott Rudin about to be Cancelled? - Chromolume 09:28 pm EDT 04/07/21

We have to recognize that "cancel culture" is among the buzz words of the radical (racist) right. Although I think most people on this board are using it more innocently, I think it is a term best avoided altogether.
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re: Is Scott Rudin about to be Cancelled?
Posted by: Chromolume 02:49 pm EDT 04/08/21
In reply to: re: Is Scott Rudin about to be Cancelled? - ryhog 11:43 pm EDT 04/07/21

Agreed. It's taken the place of "fake news," which was also co-opted by the Right (and most importantly, the twice-impeached guy who used to live at 1600) as something very different than was originally meant.
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