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re: Wasn't calling you out :-)
Posted by: Chromolume 07:46 pm EDT 04/11/21
In reply to: Wasn't calling you out :-) - Singapore/Fling 06:35 pm EDT 04/11/21

The same thing goes for James Levine. CAN we enjoy listening to his art without judging him personally? Some people can, some can't. And/or you might be able to do that with some people but not others.

What I don't like is when people decide to start judging US outright for the way we decide to handle this on our own. I've seen a lot of shaming posts on opera sites for people who would rather talk about the strength of Levine's career and not deal with the subject of the abusive behaviors. I don't think one person gets to decide for all of us. We all have to come to our own reasoning about things like this.
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re: Wasn't calling you out :-)
Posted by: Singapore/Fling 10:14 pm EDT 04/11/21
In reply to: re: Wasn't calling you out :-) - Chromolume 07:46 pm EDT 04/11/21

I have a hard time watching Levine conduct the overtures on the Met Live videos, especially when he makes that face (you know the face). I'm not going to discount the whole opera over him, but I really would love to see the Met re-edit some of those videos so I don't have to look at him.
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re: Wasn't calling you out :-)
Posted by: Chromolume 11:21 pm EDT 04/11/21
In reply to: re: Wasn't calling you out :-) - Singapore/Fling 10:14 pm EDT 04/11/21

Well, when I'm watching TV but don't like the image on the screen, I just look away. :-)
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re: Wasn't calling you out :-)
Posted by: Singapore/Fling 11:51 pm EDT 04/11/21
In reply to: re: Wasn't calling you out :-) - Chromolume 11:21 pm EDT 04/11/21

And I do, or I fast forward to the curtain rising, which solves the problem but deprives me of the overture.

But... it'd be nice not to be in the position where someone we now know as a perpetrator in credible allegations of sexual harassment and abuse wasn't just popping up on my TV screen without at least fair warning.

I'm curious to see what will happen with films featuring Kevin Spacey. There are some performances of his that I think are iconic and I'll still watch the film ("Usual Suspects", "L.A. Confidential"), but "Baby Driver" was hard to watch even before the allegations came out (though I'd already heard rumors and one first-hand account of Spacey's behavior). I think some good movies are going to fade into oblivion because people just don't want to watch him.
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