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| re: Keeping score of '1776' at the Tonys | |
| Posted by: larry13 05:38 pm EDT 07/08/21 | |
| In reply to: Keeping score of '1776' at the Tonys - WaymanWong 05:01 pm EDT 07/08/21 | |
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| Thank you, Wayman. One can speculate that Stuart Ostrow wisely chose this song to represent "1776" because of the war going on in 1969. But, in any event, the Tonys correctly included it with even the introductory dialogue, even if they mistakenly awarded no Best Score that year nor a nomination to William Daniels in the category he deserved. |
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| re: Keeping score of '1776' at the Tonys | |
| Last Edit: WaymanWong 06:55 pm EDT 07/08/21 | |
| Posted by: WaymanWong 06:43 pm EDT 07/08/21 | |
| In reply to: re: Keeping score of '1776' at the Tonys - larry13 05:38 pm EDT 07/08/21 | |
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| William Daniels turned down his Tony nomination for Featured Actor in a Musical because he felt (rightly so) that, as Adams, he should be in the Leading Actor category. If Daniels hadn't said a word, he most assuredly would've won, just as Tammy Grimes (''The Unsinkable Molly Brown'') and Tom Bosley (''Fiorello!'') won Featured Tonys as the leads of THEIR shows. (Back then, I suppose you couldn't petition to be bumped up.) Apparently, if you were billed above the title, you competed for Leading Actor at the Tonys. If you were below it, you were Featured Actor. Daniels was below the title of ''1776,'' but here's what I can't figure out: I just looked up ''Promises, Promises'' at the Playbill Vault, and Jerry Orbach also was BELOW the title. So why did Orbach get a Leading Actor nomination? Orbach won the Tony over his competition - Herschel Bernardi in ''Zorba''; Jack Cassidy in ''Maggie Flynn,'' and Joel Grey in ''George M!'' - and ALL THREE were above the title. (So I guess that billing rule wasn't always strict. Robert Morse was below the title of ''Take Me Along,'' but he, too, was nominated for Leading Actor, alongside Jackie Gleason and Walter Pidgeon.) |
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| re: Keeping score of '1776' at the Tonys | |
| Last Edit: BroadwayTonyJ 09:41 pm EDT 07/09/21 | |
| Posted by: BroadwayTonyJ 09:40 pm EDT 07/09/21 | |
| In reply to: re: Keeping score of '1776' at the Tonys - WaymanWong 06:43 pm EDT 07/08/21 | |
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| From 1947 through 1970 (for certain), fewer than 50% of the actors who were nominated for or won the Tony for a lead role were actually billed above the title. There was even one actor (during this time range) who was solo billed above the title in a Best Musical nominee and yet was nominated for featured rather than lead. I have no idea if producers back then could petition the Tony committee. I assume in all these cases, the Tony people just put actors in the category that made the most sense. | |
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| re: Keeping score of '1776' at the Tonys | |
| Posted by: larry13 09:00 pm EDT 07/08/21 | |
| In reply to: re: Keeping score of '1776' at the Tonys - WaymanWong 06:43 pm EDT 07/08/21 | |
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| Yes, I know all about what happened with Daniels for 1776 as well as the other ludicrous and/or inconsistent Tony nominations. The Tony "intentions," most assuredly with Daniels, Grimes and Bosley, didn't make them correct. It is forever to Daniels' honor that he did what he did and said what he said. The sad and silly fact is that so many people still take the Tonys seriously. |
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| re: Keeping score of '1776' at the Tonys | |
| Posted by: Chromolume 09:17 pm EDT 07/08/21 | |
| In reply to: re: Keeping score of '1776' at the Tonys - larry13 09:00 pm EDT 07/08/21 | |
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| I don't think it's a "sad and silly" fact. It's just a fact. | |
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