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| Posted by: Michael_Portantiere 09:18 am EDT 07/10/21 | |
| In reply to: re: Exactly - Billhaven 08:37 am EDT 07/10/21 | |
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| Keep waiting. And, to paraphrase a line from AUNTIE MAME (and MAME), please feel free to hold your breath while doing so :-) ................are you still waiting?........................ ............... are you still waiting?........................ Okay then. The definition for "complicit" that you yourself provided is "helping to commit a crime OR do wrong in some say." I would say that something very wrong happened at the Oscars that night, and Dunaway bore SOME responsibility for it because she didn't look at the card closely enough to see that something was not right. Apparently, even the fact that Beatty stopped reading in mid-sentence, hesitated for a LONG moment, and then looked offstage for guidance wasn't enough to clue her in that something was terribly amiss. Rather, she just went ahead and announced the name of the movie that she read on the card, even though the card was for another category. I do agree with you that, although this was a terrible mistake, it WAS a mistake rather than intentional (of course), and it wasn't primarily her fault. For those reasons, I agree that it's nowhere near as bad as the other behavioral incidents you alluded to. But the Oscars debacle was an extremely high profile example of how this person no longer has the wherewithal for public appearances, and the other inicidents indicate that neither does she have enough control to keep acting in situations where she has to work with other human beings. So I do wish people would stop hiring her to do either, thereby avoiding further extreme unpleasantness and embarrassment. |
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| re: Exactly | |
| Posted by: Billhaven 10:13 am EDT 07/10/21 | |
| In reply to: re: Exactly - Michael_Portantiere 09:18 am EDT 07/10/21 | |
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| You never disappoint. Let's ban Warren Beatty, too. No longer has he the wherewithal for public appearances. And all the presenters who don't have the wherewithal to practice pronouncing the names of the nominees. And Jimmy Kimmel, who should have run on stage and corrected the Oscar situation. Too bad Elizabeth Taylor is dead. She mispronounces Jimmy Nederlander's name at the Tonys. I would have banned her from our public airwaves. | |
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| re: Exactly | |
| Posted by: Michael_Portantiere 06:15 pm EDT 07/10/21 | |
| In reply to: re: Exactly - Billhaven 10:13 am EDT 07/10/21 | |
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| At this point, you are babbling and indulging in straw man arguments. I never said Warren Beatty should be "banned." On the contrary, I give him credit for pausing and looking offstage for help at the Oscars, though it is unfortunate that he then handed the card to Dunaway :-( Neither would I say that people who have mispronounced the names of awards winners should be "banned," although I do think it behooves anyone who gets such an assignment to try VERY HARD to make sure they learn the correct pronunciation, so they can fulfill their assignment correctly. On a related note, I was quite amazed that Steve Harvey survived his Miss Universe debacle unscathed, but he certainly did, so I guess all bets have been off since then. |
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| Last Edit: Chromolume 01:46 pm EDT 07/10/21 | |
| Posted by: Chromolume 01:45 pm EDT 07/10/21 | |
| In reply to: re: Exactly - Billhaven 10:13 am EDT 07/10/21 | |
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| Well, good. Anyone else you'd like to ban while you're on this tirade? | |
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