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| 12 Emmy nominations for HAMILTON | |
| Posted by: MockingbirdGirl 02:16 pm EDT 07/13/21 | |
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| Including lead actor nominations for Lin-Manuel Miranda and Leslie Odom Jr., supporting actor for Jonathan Groff, Anthony Ramos, and Daveed Diggs, and supporting actress for Phillipa Soo and Renée Elise Goldsberry. Also nominated for Variety Special, directing. editing, sound mixing, and tech directing. So, yeah, still a juggernaut |
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| yet with Ethan Hawke snubbed again | |
| Posted by: BwyDan 05:24 pm EDT 07/13/21 | |
| In reply to: 12 Emmy nominations for HAMILTON - MockingbirdGirl 02:16 pm EDT 07/13/21 | |
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| @ the Oscars for First Reformed, and now the Emmys for The Good Lord Bird, it's hard to muster too much enthusiasm. | |
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| re: yet with Ethan Hawke snubbed again | |
| Posted by: TheOtherOne 06:39 pm EDT 07/15/21 | |
| In reply to: yet with Ethan Hawke snubbed again - BwyDan 05:24 pm EDT 07/13/21 | |
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| I love Ethan, but I mustered up far less enthusiasm for the two projects you mention than I did for the Oscars and the Emmys. And I take all acting awards with a grain of salt. | |
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| I thought Hawke was spectacular in The Good Lord Bird | |
| Posted by: MockingbirdGirl 06:52 pm EDT 07/15/21 | |
| In reply to: re: yet with Ethan Hawke snubbed again - TheOtherOne 06:39 pm EDT 07/15/21 | |
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| The two Emmy "snubs" I regret are his performance and It's a Sin. He was, however, just nominated for a Television Critics Association Award. |
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| re: I thought Hawke was spectacular in The Good Lord Bird | |
| Posted by: BwyDan 06:05 am EDT 07/16/21 | |
| In reply to: I thought Hawke was spectacular in The Good Lord Bird - MockingbirdGirl 06:52 pm EDT 07/15/21 | |
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| MockingbirdGirl, you were right. Hawke's a national treasure. But he'll be fine; and hopefully keep working and working. |
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| Gave up on the Emmys years ago | |
| Posted by: shocktheatre 07:13 pm EDT 07/13/21 | |
| In reply to: yet with Ethan Hawke snubbed again - BwyDan 05:24 pm EDT 07/13/21 | |
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| And here is why: Liza Minnelli. Not nominated for: "Arrested Development" "A Time to Live" "Parallel Lives" "The West Side Waltz" "Law and Order: Criminal intent" Plus, Sam Waterston, S. Epatha Merkerson and Jerry Orbach never won an Emmy for "Law and Order". So, FU, Emmys. Who can take them seriously? |
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| re: Gave up on the Emmys years ago | |
| Posted by: PlayWiz 07:47 pm EDT 07/13/21 | |
| In reply to: Gave up on the Emmys years ago - shocktheatre 07:13 pm EDT 07/13/21 | |
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| She also wasn't nominated for the "Dangerous Christmas of Red Riding Hood" -- her Maxie Fords alone, as well as her interplay with Cyril Ritchard deserved an Emmy nod. Jingle-a-ling, indeed! | |
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| re: Gave up on the Emmys years ago | |
| Posted by: shocktheatre 08:14 pm EDT 07/13/21 | |
| In reply to: re: Gave up on the Emmys years ago - PlayWiz 07:47 pm EDT 07/13/21 | |
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| I completely agree and I am surprised I left that out of my rant. Thanks. | |
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| re: Gave up on the Emmys years ago | |
| Posted by: PlayWiz 08:41 pm EDT 07/13/21 | |
| In reply to: re: Gave up on the Emmys years ago - shocktheatre 08:14 pm EDT 07/13/21 | |
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| oops -- should be "Ding-a-ling, ding-a-ling", etc. | |
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| re: Gave up on the Emmys years ago | |
| Posted by: shocktheatre 10:58 am EDT 07/14/21 | |
| In reply to: re: Gave up on the Emmys years ago - PlayWiz 08:41 pm EDT 07/13/21 | |
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| It's OK, it was close enough. Cyril should have also been recognized for his sly performance. | |
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| Meanwhile, we are no closer to ending the age-old debate | |
| Posted by: Singapore/Fling 05:08 pm EDT 07/13/21 | |
| In reply to: 12 Emmy nominations for HAMILTON - MockingbirdGirl 02:16 pm EDT 07/13/21 | |
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| of who’s having the best career out of the 2015/16 Broadway season, Cynthia, Lin, or Leslie. They just keep having phenomenal success in conjunction with each other. Will we ever get a clear winner? /s |
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| re: Meanwhile, we are no closer to ending the age-old debate | |
| Posted by: BroadwayTonyJ 08:55 am EDT 07/15/21 | |
| In reply to: Meanwhile, we are no closer to ending the age-old debate - Singapore/Fling 05:08 pm EDT 07/13/21 | |
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| All 3 are having great careers. Why make it a competition? I'm sure they don't look at it that way. Lin, Cynthia, and Leslie are all fine artists and seem to be great human beings. Let's celebrate them equally. Just IMO. | |
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| re: Meanwhile, we are no closer to ending the age-old debate | |
| Posted by: Billhaven 09:03 am EDT 07/15/21 | |
| In reply to: re: Meanwhile, we are no closer to ending the age-old debate - BroadwayTonyJ 08:55 am EDT 07/15/21 | |
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| Amen. | |
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| re: Meanwhile, we are no closer to ending the age-old debate | |
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| Posted by: KingSpeed 08:43 pm EDT 07/13/21 | |
| In reply to: Meanwhile, we are no closer to ending the age-old debate - Singapore/Fling 05:08 pm EDT 07/13/21 | |
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| Cynthia easy. The only one with a Oscar nomination for a performance in a leading role. She’s having the best post-Tony movie career of anyone in decades. | |
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| re: Meanwhile, we are no closer to ending the age-old debate | |
| Posted by: Singapore/Fling 10:26 pm EDT 07/13/21 | |
| In reply to: re: Meanwhile, we are no closer to ending the age-old debate - KingSpeed 08:43 pm EDT 07/13/21 | |
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| No shocker, complete nonsense. She and Odom both have two Oscar nominations (and two Golden Globes and one Emmy nom each), and the idea that Leading versus Supporting makes her career better is... well, the level of logic that I expect from you. | |
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| re: Meanwhile, we are no closer to ending the age-old debate | |
| Last Edit: KingSpeed 02:21 am EDT 07/14/21 | |
| Posted by: KingSpeed 02:20 am EDT 07/14/21 | |
| In reply to: re: Meanwhile, we are no closer to ending the age-old debate - Singapore/Fling 10:26 pm EDT 07/13/21 | |
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| An actor playing lead roles is having a better career and getting paid more than those playing supporting roles. You won’t catch me attacking you personally though. | |
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| re: 12 Emmy nominations for HAMILTON | |
| Posted by: mikem 02:31 pm EDT 07/13/21 | |
| In reply to: 12 Emmy nominations for HAMILTON - MockingbirdGirl 02:16 pm EDT 07/13/21 | |
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| American Utopia is also nominated for Variety Special and got 6 total nominations. Oslo was nominated for Best Television Movie and Score. | |
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| re: 12 Emmy nominations for HAMILTON | |
| Last Edit: WaymanWong 05:18 pm EDT 07/13/21 | |
| Posted by: WaymanWong 05:16 pm EDT 07/13/21 | |
| In reply to: re: 12 Emmy nominations for HAMILTON - mikem 02:31 pm EDT 07/13/21 | |
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| Bernadette Peters is up for Guest Actress in a Comedy (''Zoey's Extraordinary Playlist''). And Julie Andrews, for Character Voice-Over (''Bridgerton''). If you scroll the entire Emmy list (below), there are nominations for Sergio Trujillo, Marc Shaiman, Kristen Anderson-Lopez, Robert Lopez and more. |
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| Link | Emmys.com: Complete list of 2021 Primetime Emmy Nominations |
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| re: 12 Emmy nominations for HAMILTON | |
| Posted by: ryhog 05:55 pm EDT 07/13/21 | |
| In reply to: re: 12 Emmy nominations for HAMILTON - WaymanWong 05:16 pm EDT 07/13/21 | |
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| How does this relate to this thread, which is about Emmys for filmed stage shows? | |
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| re: 12 Emmy nominations for HAMILTON | |
| Posted by: Singapore/Fling 06:32 pm EDT 07/13/21 | |
| In reply to: re: 12 Emmy nominations for HAMILTON - ryhog 05:55 pm EDT 07/13/21 | |
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| I wandered over here from a similar semantic argument on reddit, which is about whose rules or decorum determines how everyone is meant to respond. This thread, at this point in its branch, isn't per se about Emmys for filmed stage shows. The first post was about Hamilton nominations, the next was about American Utopia (a filmed stage show) and Oslo (a film adapted from a stage show), and then Wayman offered a post about other stage artists getting nominations. So Wayman seems on topic both in the narrow sense of the thread - two filmed stage shows and one film from a play - but also in the larger sense that this is an Emmy's thread, and why not post everything related to theater and the Emmys in one thread? | |
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| re: 12 Emmy nominations for HAMILTON | |
| Posted by: ryhog 07:25 pm EDT 07/13/21 | |
| In reply to: re: 12 Emmy nominations for HAMILTON - Singapore/Fling 06:32 pm EDT 07/13/21 | |
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| Let me make clear that I am not advocating any sort of banning or censoring of posts, but there had been any post in this thread that was not about productions of stage shows on film. To me, a post about a smattering of actors who work on stage (sometimes) nominated for non-theatrical work (there are of course a ton more not mentioned in Wayman's list) is, in the described context, an irrelevant tangent. Why not post everything in the same thread? Because, to me, that creates a muddle. If you like it, fine. I prefer not having posts entitled "re: 12 Emmy nominations for HAMILTON" polluted with posts about nominations for non-stage work regardless of whether the actor sometimes works on stage or not. ymmv | |
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| Someone needs to go to bed early | |
| Posted by: dramedy 08:06 pm EDT 07/13/21 | |
| In reply to: re: 12 Emmy nominations for HAMILTON - ryhog 07:25 pm EDT 07/13/21 | |
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| And get a good night sleep 😴 At least people are posting. There are several theater posts below without any comments like fairycakes. |
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| re: Someone needs to go to bed early | |
| Posted by: ryhog 11:04 pm EDT 07/13/21 | |
| In reply to: Someone needs to go to bed early - dramedy 08:06 pm EDT 07/13/21 | |
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| Well, that would be easier in SF (where the All-Star Game will end a few minutes after 8) than in NYC. :-) Please note that my comment did not urge that the post not be made, just that it was posted in a thread it didn't belong in. :-) |
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| Love the way this post develops | |
| Posted by: Jax 02:22 am EDT 07/14/21 | |
| In reply to: re: Someone needs to go to bed early - ryhog 11:04 pm EDT 07/13/21 | |
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| MGirl posts a fact. Shock Theatre comes in and sprays Liza fairy dust over everything. Singapore Fling comes on and insults another poster. Then Ryhog wraps it up by criticizing how the posts are not on topic. Everyone pretty much being who they are. Good night all. |
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| re: 12 Emmy nominations for HAMILTON | |
| Posted by: mikem 03:49 pm EDT 07/13/21 | |
| In reply to: re: 12 Emmy nominations for HAMILTON - mikem 02:31 pm EDT 07/13/21 | |
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| Interesting article by Pete Hammond, one of the awards gurus, who notes that the Hamilton actors are getting nominated for the exact same performance six of them got Tony nominations for. Since this is essentially a filmed version of the stage production, these performances weren't really adapted or modified for the screen. So should they be eligible for a screen award? He notes, "What’s to keep every big show on Broadway from doing the same thing going forward — not adapting their shows for TV but simply shooting it while everyone’s still in costume?" |
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| Link | https://deadline.com/2021/07/emmy-nominations-hamilton-wandavision-mandalorian-1234791815/ |
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| re: 12 Emmy nominations for HAMILTON | |
| Posted by: ryhog 05:39 pm EDT 07/13/21 | |
| In reply to: re: 12 Emmy nominations for HAMILTON - mikem 03:49 pm EDT 07/13/21 | |
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| I have said this before but it is the prerogative of folks who give awards to set their own rules. Yes, we can call their rules stupid and we can call their nominations stupid but the truth is that awards are stupid. Beyond that controversial notion, what is the reasoned basis for saying an actor should not get an Emmy when they were eligible for a Tony if an actor can get a Tony even though they were eligible for a Drama Desk, Outer Critics, etc etc etc award? | |
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| re: Should be zero nominations for Hamilton | |
| Posted by: Bwayguy 04:16 pm EDT 07/13/21 | |
| In reply to: re: 12 Emmy nominations for HAMILTON - mikem 03:49 pm EDT 07/13/21 | |
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| I love Hamilton but it's ridiculous that a filmed stage version should even qualify for the Emmy's. | |
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| re: but there is precedence for it | |
| Posted by: JAllenC3 04:48 pm EDT 07/13/21 | |
| In reply to: re: Should be zero nominations for Hamilton - Bwayguy 04:16 pm EDT 07/13/21 | |
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| The Sweeney Todd tour video got 5 EMMY nominations winning 3 including for George Hearn as Sweeney. | |
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| re: but there is precedence for it | |
| Posted by: WaymanWong 08:37 pm EDT 07/13/21 | |
| In reply to: re: but there is precedence for it - JAllenC3 04:48 pm EDT 07/13/21 | |
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| True. And ''Sweeney Todd'' competed in the categories of Variety or Music Program. ''Hamilton'' is competing as Variety Special (Pre-Recorded). However, Angela Lansbury and George Hearn competed in ''Outstanding Individual Performance in a Variety or Music Program.'' (And Hearn won.) If that category still existed, that's where Miranda and Odom probably best belonged. But the Emmys discontinued that category after 2008. So Miranda & Co. were eligible in the acting categories of Limited or Anthology Series, even though ''Hamilton'' isn't a Limited Series, etc. |
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| re: Should be zero nominations for Hamilton | |
| Posted by: tenor1350 04:26 pm EDT 07/13/21 | |
| In reply to: re: Should be zero nominations for Hamilton - Bwayguy 04:16 pm EDT 07/13/21 | |
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| Comedy specials are eligible, and all they do is stick a camera into the theatre where the comedian is doing his act... | |
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| re: Should be zero nominations for Hamilton | |
| Posted by: Bwayguy 04:42 pm EDT 07/13/21 | |
| In reply to: re: Should be zero nominations for Hamilton - tenor1350 04:26 pm EDT 07/13/21 | |
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| How many comedians do you see being nominated for best actor/actress? | |
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| re: 12 Emmy nominations for HAMILTON | |
| Posted by: MockingbirdGirl 03:53 pm EDT 07/13/21 | |
| In reply to: re: 12 Emmy nominations for HAMILTON - mikem 03:49 pm EDT 07/13/21 | |
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| He notes, "What’s to keep every big show on Broadway from doing the same thing going forward — not adapting their shows for TV but simply shooting it while everyone’s still in costume?" Yes, please! |
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| We have the Emmys to thank, in part, for... | |
| Posted by: Quicheo 12:24 pm EDT 07/14/21 | |
| In reply to: re: 12 Emmy nominations for HAMILTON - MockingbirdGirl 03:53 pm EDT 07/13/21 | |
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| ...showering "Sweeney Todd" with attention and giving producers more reason to give us "Sunday in the Park with George", "Into the Woods", and "Passion"--which in turn inspired generations of theater makers and performers. I think awards like these exist most usefully to encourage more excellence and more innovation in programming and to draw attention to things that should continue or we should have more of--so, please, nominate the hell out of "Hamilton", "...Utopia", and any other filmed show that has been done with care. |
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| re: 12 Emmy nominations for HAMILTON | |
| Posted by: tandelor 06:13 pm EDT 07/13/21 | |
| In reply to: re: 12 Emmy nominations for HAMILTON - MockingbirdGirl 03:53 pm EDT 07/13/21 | |
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| I'm with you MBG. If only.... | |
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