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| re: This is NOT good--BUT, the science is. | |
| Posted by: ryhog 11:41 am EDT 07/16/21 | |
| In reply to: re: This is NOT good--BUT, the science is. - broadwaybacker 09:52 am EDT 07/16/21 | |
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| Something is off in those stats and I suspect it is in what the percentages relate to. It is impossible that 1.78% of breakthrough cases have died. That would be 79.21 people, a large share of deaths since the first breakthrough cases were ID'd. Ditto for the 6.8%. That would be over 300 hospitalized breakthoughs. | |
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| re: This is NOT good--BUT, the science is. | |
| Posted by: broadwaybacker 02:20 pm EDT 07/16/21 | |
| In reply to: re: This is NOT good--BUT, the science is. - ryhog 11:41 am EDT 07/16/21 | |
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| As mikem said, this was reported yesterday in the Boston Globe. Here is the precise quote: "About 92% of the infections in vaccinated residents did not require hospitalizations, while 303 people, or 6.8%, were hospitalized, according to state Department of Public Health data through July 10. The Boston Herald reported the breakthrough data on Tuesday based on a public records request. Seventy-nine vaccinated residents in Massachusetts died from COVID-19, either without being hospitalized or following a hospital stay, DPH said. That death toll reflects 1.78% of the 4,450 confirmed breakthrough cases and 0.0019% of the 4,195,844 people fully vaccinated as of July 10." So rhyhog, your math was right, but your skepticism might have been misplaced. 79 deaths out of 4.2 million people vaccinated is a tiny number, and of course, we don't know what underlying medical conditins those 79 might have had. Same thing re the 303 hospitalized people, of whom some unreported number died. |
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| re: This is NOT good--BUT, the science is. | |
| Last Edit: mikem 11:58 am EDT 07/16/21 | |
| Posted by: mikem 11:57 am EDT 07/16/21 | |
| In reply to: re: This is NOT good--BUT, the science is. - ryhog 11:41 am EDT 07/16/21 | |
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| The 79 deaths and 303 hospitalizations are apparently correct numbers, as quoted by the Boston Globe and local news stations. I'm having trouble finding an overall number of deaths in Massachusetts since vaccination became available, but I agree that seems like too high a proportion of overall COVID deaths, though. | |
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| re: This is NOT good--BUT, the science is. | |
| Posted by: mikem 01:15 pm EDT 07/16/21 | |
| In reply to: re: This is NOT good--BUT, the science is. - mikem 11:57 am EDT 07/16/21 | |
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| Found some more info. We don't know when the 79 people were vaccinated, when they were vaccine-eligible, or when they died. The average age of someone who dies from COVID is still over 70. Massachusetts did not open their vaccine program up to the elderly until Feb 1, 2021 and to everyone over 13 until Apr 19. Roughly 1341 people have died from COVID in Massachusetts since Mar 15, 2021. 79 is 5.8% of those deaths. Roughly 407 people have died from COVID in Massachusetts since May 1, 2021. 79 is 19.4% of those deaths. I'm not sure any of the above information is all that helpful, though. Too much relevant info is missing. |
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