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| Broadway: Beyond the Golden Age will premiere via PBS' Great Performances beginning August 14 | |
| Posted by: Ann 02:42 pm EDT 07/21/21 | |
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| Link | More at Playbill |
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| I wonder if those of us who supported it on Kickstarter will see our "Rewards" | |
| Posted by: JAllenC3 03:59 pm EDT 07/21/21 | |
| In reply to: Broadway: Beyond the Golden Age will premiere via PBS' Great Performances beginning August 14 - Ann 02:42 pm EDT 07/21/21 | |
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| Now that it's finished I assume there's some kind of legal requirement to make those available to us (or at least provide something similar) | |
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| Last Edit: SQ 11:04 am EDT 07/22/21 | |
| Posted by: SQ 11:03 am EDT 07/22/21 | |
| In reply to: I wonder if those of us who supported it on Kickstarter will see our "Rewards" - JAllenC3 03:59 pm EDT 07/21/21 | |
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| https://help.kickstarter.com/hc/en-us/articles/360039530654-What-can-Kickstarter-do-when-a-creator-does-not-fulfill-their-project-rewards- Basically there is nothing you can do if the creator does not fulfill the project rewards. And in this case since the creator is deceased, the threat of not being allowed to do another campaign is useless. Note that per https://help.kickstarter.com/hc/en-us/articles/115005126914-What-if-something-goes-wrong-after-a-project-is-successfully-funded- "rewards are not guaranteed." . |
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| Link | https://help.kickstarter.com/hc/en-us/articles/360039530654-What-can-Kickstarter-do-when-a-creator-does-not-fulfill-their-project-rewards- |
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| re: there are NO legal requirements | |
| Posted by: JAllenC3 12:15 pm EDT 07/22/21 | |
| In reply to: re: there are NO legal requirements - SQ 11:03 am EDT 07/22/21 | |
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| Depends on what you're looking at I guess. The terms that were in place when the Kickstarter was launched do say, "Project Creators are required to fulfill all rewards of their successful fundraising campaigns or refund any Backer whose reward they do not or cannot fulfill." https://www.kickstarter.com/terms-of-use/oct2012 Also from Kickstarter's website (in 2012): Is a creator legally obligated to fulfill the promises of their project? Yes. Kickstarter's Terms of Use require creators to fulfill all rewards of their project or refund any backer whose reward they do not or cannot fulfill. (This is what creators see before they launch.) We crafted these terms to create a legal requirement for creators to follow through on their projects, and to give backers a recourse if they don't. We hope that backers will consider using this provision only in cases where they feel that a creator has not made a good faith effort to complete the project and fulfill. https://www.kickstarter.com/blog/accountability-on-kickstarter So it seems over the years Kickstarter has adjusted their terms of service to give creators more flexibility when things go wrong. But with Rick's death I imagine you're right there's not much recourse unless someone wants to sue his estate (which I assume is long since settled) or the production company behind the documentary (which obviously wouldn't be worth it for a myriad of reasons). Anyway, I'm just glad to see the finished product, though I do feel bad for the people who gave at the highest tier to get their names in the credits and such. |
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| re: there are NO legal requirements | |
| Posted by: SQ 01:39 pm EDT 07/22/21 | |
| In reply to: re: there are NO legal requirements - JAllenC3 12:15 pm EDT 07/22/21 | |
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| Did anyone at the time of his death reach out to his estate and/or the production company regarding the Kickstarter rewards? | |
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| re: there are NO legal requirements | |
| Posted by: schlepper 03:27 pm EDT 07/22/21 | |
| In reply to: re: there are NO legal requirements - SQ 01:39 pm EDT 07/22/21 | |
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| Right -- because what better time to "reach out and ask for your free stuff" than when the body is barely cold! | |
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| re: NOT free !!! | |
| Posted by: SQ 09:14 pm EDT 07/22/21 | |
| In reply to: re: there are NO legal requirements - schlepper 03:27 pm EDT 07/22/21 | |
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| These were NOT "free" stuff. FREE is getting something for nothing. The rewards were promised for the pledges aka investments in this project. People paid MONEY for them. Hardly "free". |
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| re: there are NO legal requirements | |
| Posted by: NW 08:08 pm EDT 07/22/21 | |
| In reply to: re: there are NO legal requirements - schlepper 03:27 pm EDT 07/22/21 | |
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| That's part of what an estate's executor does. And, yes, you should put in a claim sooner rather than later. | |
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| re: I wonder if those of us who supported it on Kickstarter will see our "Rewards" | |
| Last Edit: Ann 08:51 pm EDT 07/21/21 | |
| Posted by: Ann 08:46 pm EDT 07/21/21 | |
| In reply to: I wonder if those of us who supported it on Kickstarter will see our "Rewards" - JAllenC3 03:59 pm EDT 07/21/21 | |
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| I'm not sure about the Kickstarter money, but of course, that was initiated by Rick McKay and he died in 2018. I'll see if I can find anything out. What were the perks supposed to be? |
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| re: I wonder if those of us who supported it on Kickstarter will see our "Rewards" | |
| Posted by: NW 11:13 pm EDT 07/21/21 | |
| In reply to: re: I wonder if those of us who supported it on Kickstarter will see our "Rewards" - Ann 08:46 pm EDT 07/21/21 | |
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| They're listed in the right-hand column under Support at the link below. Personal messages from Rick McKay are involved. | |
| Link | https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/53000829/broadway-beyond-the-golden-age-the-new-film-w-100/description |
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| Re: Kickstarter "personal Messages" | |
| Posted by: stevemr 03:27 pm EDT 07/24/21 | |
| In reply to: re: I wonder if those of us who supported it on Kickstarter will see our "Rewards" - NW 11:13 pm EDT 07/21/21 | |
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| I wouldn't hold much hope for those personal messages, but if you DO get one, be sure to let us know! | |
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| re: Broadway: Beyond the Golden Age will premiere via PBS' Great Performances beginning August 14 | |
| Posted by: DistantDrumming 02:59 pm EDT 07/21/21 | |
| In reply to: Broadway: Beyond the Golden Age will premiere via PBS' Great Performances beginning August 14 - Ann 02:42 pm EDT 07/21/21 | |
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| Great news! Looking forward to it. | |
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| re: Broadway: Beyond the Golden Age will premiere via PBS' Great Performances beginning August 14 | |
| Posted by: claploudly 06:47 pm EDT 07/21/21 | |
| In reply to: re: Broadway: Beyond the Golden Age will premiere via PBS' Great Performances beginning August 14 - DistantDrumming 02:59 pm EDT 07/21/21 | |
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| Does anyone remember how Rick McKay died? He was such a great guy that we lost way too soon. | |
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| re: Broadway: Beyond the Golden Age will premiere via PBS' Great Performances beginning August 14 | |
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| Posted by: HelenHaze 09:26 am EDT 07/22/21 | |
| In reply to: re: Broadway: Beyond the Golden Age will premiere via PBS' Great Performances beginning August 14 - claploudly 06:47 pm EDT 07/21/21 | |
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| Rick died of a heart attack at his West End Ave apartment on January 1, 2018. He was only fifty-seven. Very happy this is being done at last. | |
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| re: Broadway: Beyond the Golden Age will premiere via PBS' Great Performances beginning August 14 | |
| Posted by: AlanScott 10:58 am EDT 07/22/21 | |
| In reply to: re: Broadway: Beyond the Golden Age will premiere via PBS' Great Performances beginning August 14 - HelenHaze 09:26 am EDT 07/22/21 | |
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| People heard from Rick McKay on January 25, 2018. He was discovered dead in his apartment on January 29, 2018. On January 25 of this year, one of his closest friends posted on Rick's Facebook page that it was the third anniversary of this death. I'm not sure if the exact date is still uncertain, but it was not before January 25, 2018. |
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