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re: Thats just it....
Posted by: bway1430 03:35 am EDT 07/26/21
In reply to: !!!! - sf 11:51 am EDT 07/25/21

Infection rates ARE going down. A spike was expected once rules were relaxed (and we still await that data) but the numbers to watch are how many who test poisitive were hospitalized or worse.

The truth is that covid will be with us for at least a few more years before we become endemic. The track and trace served it's purpose early on but it is absolutely ridiculous to keep it now given the numbers of fully vaccinated people. Does that sound callous about those getting ill who are unvaccinated? Perhaps. But they are the ones putting themselves in danger. They have a choice: opt in to get vaccinated or play Russian roulette with their own health. The government can't fix that short of making vaccinations mandatory (and I would have no problem with that whatsoever).

We agree in that the government has completely botched things and created mixed messages around covid that have caused confusion and chaos....and going back to the original argument, that is exactly what ALW was pissed off about and why he pulled his show until the next level of restrictions are done away with.
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re: Thats just it....
Posted by: sf 12:12 pm EDT 07/26/21
In reply to: re: Thats just it.... - bway1430 03:35 am EDT 07/26/21

Infection rates weren't going down at the beginning of last week when Lloyd Webber threw his little tantrum.

They're going down now, but they haven't been going down for long enough to know whether it's a sustained trend or just a blip, and we aren't far enough past the end of restrictions last week to factor that into the equation. If cases are on a sustained downward trend now, given the number of people who have been asked to self-isolate, it's probably because the test and trace system is working as intended.

Yes, we're going to be living with this for a while. Yes, I'm appalled that younger people are being so slow to come forward and get vaccinated. I'm also appalled at the number of self-absorbed morons I see in indoor public spaces without masks on, because that's not going to get us out of this any faster, and it's not going to make places like theatres safer (as far as I'm concerned, vaccine passports should be mandatory and the rule in theatres and cinemas and on public transport should be no mask, no entry, no exceptions). And YES, as I said, there's no shortage of gullible idiots willing to fall for a very obvious piece of spin. If the test and trace system is helping bring down the infection rate, given that our government has (stupidly) flushed away most other protective measures, now is NOT the time to do away with it.
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