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| re: I truly hope that Teacher 64 does not actually, you know, teach anything to anyone | |
| Posted by: Teacher64 04:14 pm EDT 08/19/21 | |
| In reply to: I truly hope that Teacher 64 does not actually, you know, teach anything to anyone - broadwaybacker 11:27 am EDT 08/19/21 | |
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| "It's the unvaccinated who are filling up the ICU beds in hospitals across the country..." From The NY Times: "Breakthrough infections in vaccinated people accounted for at least one in five newly diagnosed cases in six of these states and higher percentages of total hospitalizations and deaths than had been previously observed in all of them, according to figures gathered by The New York Times." Hmmm, I wonder why we were not told about this a month ago? Maybe they did not know about this a month ago. And now they're saying we are going to need booster shots 8 months after our last vaccination. Why didn't they tell us this before? Maybe because they didn't know about this before. Fact is, there is a LOT of stuff about this vaccine that they really don't know. That's why they keep moving the finish line. Some people might feel comfortable getting an experimental vaccine for a virus with a higher than 98% survival rate, but some might not. I support the people who want to get vaccinated, and I support the people who do not want to get vaccinated. I would consider your vaccination status to be between you and your primary care physician. Your vaccination status is NONE OF MY BUSINESS and my vaccination status is NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS. And, if you're worried about children getting Covid I have great news! Children are the least likely to get the virus, they are the least likely to be hospitalized for the virus, and they are the least likely to die from it. |
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| re: I truly hope that Teacher 64 does not actually, you know, teach anything to anyone | |
| Posted by: Roman 11:52 pm EDT 08/19/21 | |
| In reply to: re: I truly hope that Teacher 64 does not actually, you know, teach anything to anyone - Teacher64 04:14 pm EDT 08/19/21 | |
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| re: I truly hope that Teacher 64 does not actually, you know, teach anything to anyone | |
| Posted by: whereismikeyfl 07:09 pm EDT 08/19/21 | |
| In reply to: re: I truly hope that Teacher 64 does not actually, you know, teach anything to anyone - Teacher64 04:14 pm EDT 08/19/21 | |
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| Again, bringing you up to speed on what you seem to have missed. We were told about the breakthrough infections a month ago. I am surprised that you missed it. The possible need for a booster has been discussed for months. I do not know how you could have missed that. But as the story says, it is mostly unvaccinated people who are filling the hospital beds and dying of the virus.. Vaccinated people get sick from breakout viruses but mostly ride it out at home and survive. You seem to think that vaccinated people are filling the ICU beds. That is not the case. I think most people know that children are the least likely to get the virus. But most people would like to minimize the chances as much as possible. Exposure is so widespread that while children are least likely to die from it, there are some dying from it. Knowing their children were unlikely to catch covid is not much comfort when they die from it. You are right your vaccination status is no one's business, as long as you do not increase anyone's risk. Osnes never had to take a job that would bring her into close contact with others, performing one of the highest risk activities there is. Had she exercised better judgement, no one would be concerned with her status. |
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| Here's real statistic from one hospital | |
| Posted by: Kaoru 05:00 pm EDT 08/19/21 | |
| In reply to: re: I truly hope that Teacher 64 does not actually, you know, teach anything to anyone - Teacher64 04:14 pm EDT 08/19/21 | |
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| Since you brought up children's case, here is the actual statistic and case: https://health.ucdavis.edu/media-resources/contenthub/health-news/2021/08/pdf/graph1.pdf In this chart you can see comparing to January 2021, August 2021 stat shows an increase in 0-19 yo patients (admitted to the hospital), 12% to 17%, and in August, the ratio of this age group and 60+ yo and up are the same (17%). "Some of the patients he is seeing are very young. “A woman came in with her toddler, who was ill. The mother had been vaccinated, but her boyfriend had not. Her toddler ended up getting COVID, which was very upsetting for her.” " You can read it in the link below. Are you saying it's okay for a young child to get COVID virus because "they are the least likely to die from it"?? Surely you are out of your mind if you actually believe it. One more infected child/adult is too many especially they may have long lasting effects in their health. Since the children under 12 yo cannot get a vaccine yet, we, adults, should get a vaccine to protect them. |
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| Link | Emergency Department sees highest number of COVID-19 cases so far in 2021 |
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| re: I truly hope that Teacher 64 does not actually, you know, teach anything to anyone | |
| Posted by: showtunetrivia 04:57 pm EDT 08/19/21 | |
| In reply to: re: I truly hope that Teacher 64 does not actually, you know, teach anything to anyone - Teacher64 04:14 pm EDT 08/19/21 | |
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| You are far from update on COVID research, Teacher64. It’s true children seemed to be not as vulnerable to the original strain of the virus. That’s not the case with the Delta variant. It’s more contagious to everyone, and the rates of children being infected, hospitalized, and dying are climbing. To say nothing of the serious post-COVID inflammatory issues that have afflicted many kids. What’s more, they have been discussing the likelihood of needing boosters for months. You’ve clearly had your head…elsewhere. It’s similar to the way you need a new flu shot each year, and they try to tailor the new shot to what they think the dominant flu virus will be. Because viruses change. They mutate. And science responds. Oh, and those “experimental” vaccines? They’re building on decades of research on coronaviruses. They had a vaccine for canine coronavirus in 1991. They developed a vaccine for the first SARS (human coronavirus) that hit in 2002, but the virus died out, making it impossible to get funding for clinical trials. Laura, who has immunocompromised family members literally in danger from the crap spewed by Teacher64 and others like him |
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| Are you certain you want those horrific last words in print? | |
| Posted by: wisebear 04:51 pm EDT 08/19/21 | |
| In reply to: re: I truly hope that Teacher 64 does not actually, you know, teach anything to anyone - Teacher64 04:14 pm EDT 08/19/21 | |
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| That last sentence shows you to be a monster. There’s a level of infecting children that you’re okay with. That’s disgusting to me. Of course you are again ignoring the science, which indicates long-term complications for children even if their case was initially mild. I’m sorry for you that you’ve been brainwashed by misinformation. But I cannot fathom being okay with spreading illness to children and the compromised. I believe you’re a very dangerous person. |
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| And the paragraph following the one you quoted | |
| Last Edit: Ann 04:29 pm EDT 08/19/21 | |
| Posted by: Ann 04:22 pm EDT 08/19/21 | |
| In reply to: re: I truly hope that Teacher 64 does not actually, you know, teach anything to anyone - Teacher64 04:14 pm EDT 08/19/21 | |
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| "The absolute numbers remain very low, however, and there is little doubt that the vaccines remain powerfully protective. This continues to be “a pandemic of the unvaccinated,” as federal health officials have often said." Yes, we now know there are breakthrough cases. I'm vaccinated (I'm fine with you knowing that) and I've gone back to wearing a mask in public places. Yes, children have a lower rate of getting COVID, but who knows with the next variant. And I wouldn't forgive myself if I was the cause of my grandson getting the virus. |
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| re: And the paragraph following the one you quoted | |
| Posted by: whereismikeyfl 07:24 pm EDT 08/19/21 | |
| In reply to: And the paragraph following the one you quoted - Ann 04:22 pm EDT 08/19/21 | |
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| I think Dr. Blythe Adamson on the last Variety Stagecraft podcast makes a strong point about changing precautions. She supervises the COVID safety measures for Pass Over. She points out that precautions will change as the numbers change, as rates of infection change. People seem to understand that viruses mutate, but are in shock that precautions change in response. If you want an unchanging precaution, then lockdown would be the way to go. But if we want to let people go out into the world, there will have to be changes over time as the circumstances change. |
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