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Chromolume, what does the line mean? Thank you. nm
Posted by: thtrgoer 02:03 pm EDT 08/22/21
In reply to: re: Why isn't Oliver! ever revived? - Chromolume 05:06 pm EDT 08/21/21

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re: Chromolume, what does the line mean? Thank you.
Last Edit: Chromolume 02:30 pm EDT 08/22/21
Posted by: Chromolume 02:16 pm EDT 08/22/21
In reply to: Chromolume, what does the line mean? Thank you. nm - thtrgoer 02:03 pm EDT 08/22/21

LOL. Oliver has just told Dodger he has no parents. Dodger's instinctive response is to say "lovely bastard" but then he catches himself halfway through the word and turns it into a remark about the weather.
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re: Chromolume, what does the line mean? Thank you.
Posted by: Teacher64 01:29 am EDT 08/26/21
In reply to: re: Chromolume, what does the line mean? Thank you. - Chromolume 02:16 pm EDT 08/22/21

I think that might be your interpretation of the line but I don't think that is what Bart intended when he wrote it. As I recall, when Oliver tells Dodger that he has no mother or father. Dodger says "Lovely" because this is good news for him as he has just found a new pick pocket for Fagin. But, as soon as he says "Lovely" he realizes that would not sound right to Oliver and it might give up Dodger's real motivations which is to recruit Oliver for Fagin. Therefore, he says "Lovely", realizes what he is saying and quickly fixes his slip-up by changing the topic to the weather; "Lovely......balmy weather we're having today." "Lovely bastard" would not make sense as the a in "bastard" and the a in "balmy" do not make the same sound.
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re: Chromolume, what does the line mean? Thank you.
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Posted by: Chromolume 05:52 pm EDT 08/27/21
In reply to: re: Chromolume, what does the line mean? Thank you. - Teacher64 01:29 am EDT 08/26/21

I think that might be your interpretation of the line but I don't think that is what Bart intended when he wrote it. As I recall, when Oliver tells Dodger that he has no mother or father. Dodger says "Lovely" because this is good news for him as he has just found a new pick pocket for Fagin. But, as soon as he says "Lovely" he realizes that would not sound right to Oliver and it might give up Dodger's real motivations which is to recruit Oliver for Fagin. Therefore, he says "Lovely", realizes what he is saying and quickly fixes his slip-up by changing the topic to the weather; "Lovely......balmy weather we're having today." "Lovely bastard" would not make sense as the a in "bastard" and the a in "balmy" do not make the same sound.

No. The line is actually written as "lovely bal...my weather," not "lovely....balmy weather." And the adjustment on the "a" is not all that much, but that's also part of Dodger changing his thought.

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