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| ALW's Cinderella cast recording | |
| Posted by: ablankpage 02:11 pm EDT 08/23/21 | |
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| I've tried twice now and I just can't hook into the score for Cinderella. I think part of the problem is the lyrics feel so generic and predictable and the melodies are so forgettable (except the melodic quote of R&H's "In My Own Little Corner" in "Bad Cinderella"). I loved Emerald Fennell's work on Promising Young Woman and Killing Eve, plus I remember reading that Scott Rudin was interested in a Broadway transfer, so I trust there's a smart musical in here somewhere. I love David Zippel's lyrics in City of Angels and The Goodbye Girl and for all my annoyances with Andrew Lloyd Webber, the man can definitely write an earworm when he wants to. Is this just something you have to see live to "get"? The reviews were pretty strong, but based on the album I'm just not getting it. Thoughts? |
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| re: ALW's Cinderella cast recording | |
| Posted by: GavinLogan1 08:48 am EDT 08/25/21 | |
| In reply to: ALW's Cinderella cast recording - ablankpage 02:11 pm EDT 08/23/21 | |
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| No big surprises here, but I love it. However it was only on the 2nd and 3rd listen that I started to. I’m planning on writing a track-by-track review of the album (which I think I’ll share on here, despite it being very long!). What surprises me isn’t so much that people don’t like it— it’s ALW, who often is not everyone’s cup of tea— but that people are finding Zippel’s lyrics weak. I think they’re fantastic. Easily his best lyrical contributor in ages (I also liked his work on Woman in White, but find Cinderella much stronger— possibly because it’s comedic$. More to come. |
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| re: ALW's Cinderella cast recording | |
| Posted by: ablankpage 12:49 pm EDT 08/25/21 | |
| In reply to: re: ALW's Cinderella cast recording - GavinLogan1 08:48 am EDT 08/25/21 | |
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| Can't wait to read it! | |
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| re: As someone who appreciates ALW... | |
| Posted by: bway1430 03:53 am EDT 08/24/21 | |
| In reply to: ALW's Cinderella cast recording - ablankpage 02:11 pm EDT 08/23/21 | |
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| I was disappointed in the recording. It has its moments but there are some dreadful lyrics by Zippel and many songs sound like demos accompanied by an old Casio keyboard. I didn't think it was his worst score (that honour goes to STEPHEN WARD) but it comes close. That said, the reviews have been very positive and much of what was recorded has already been altered for the production. At least one song has been dropped (the "Sea Witch" number) and a lot of segments either removed or rewritten. I have tickets in October so will reserve any further opinions about the show until I see it. |
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| re: As someone who appreciates ALW... | |
| Posted by: Chromolume 09:37 pm EDT 08/24/21 | |
| In reply to: re: As someone who appreciates ALW... - bway1430 03:53 am EDT 08/24/21 | |
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| At least one song has been dropped (the "Sea Witch" number) "Poor Unfortunate Souls" was in the show???? |
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| re: As someone who appreciates ALW... | |
| Posted by: ablankpage 09:46 am EDT 08/24/21 | |
| In reply to: re: As someone who appreciates ALW... - bway1430 03:53 am EDT 08/24/21 | |
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| Very interested to hear what you think in October! | |
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| re: As someone who appreciates ALW... | |
| Posted by: bway1430 02:38 am EDT 08/25/21 | |
| In reply to: re: As someone who appreciates ALW... - ablankpage 09:46 am EDT 08/24/21 | |
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| Thanks and I will chime back. Going the 20th. :-) |
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| re: ALW's Cinderella cast recording | |
| Posted by: Sam890 11:47 pm EDT 08/23/21 | |
| In reply to: ALW's Cinderella cast recording - ablankpage 02:11 pm EDT 08/23/21 | |
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| I wasn't too impressed on listening to the advanced bits and pieces, but now that I've heard it all in context I'm really enjoying the score. It's light hearted and fun - and doesn't take itself too seriously. It has a VERY British sensibility which a lot of Americans just don't seem to 'get', so I don't think it would particularly fare well on Broadway. I don't think Zippel has ever since reached the dazzling heights of his City of Angels lyrics, but I thought this Cinderella lyric was rather Porter-esque (with all it's internal 'I' rhymes, and rhyming "her eyes on" with horizon"): "Look at me, Cinderella, flying high in the skies With her eyes on the horizon" |
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| eyes on the horizon | |
| Posted by: Hair 10:01 am EDT 08/24/21 | |
| In reply to: re: ALW's Cinderella cast recording - Sam890 11:47 pm EDT 08/23/21 | |
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| Wonder if he saw the In The Heights movie? | |
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| re: ALW's Cinderella cast recording | |
| Posted by: keikekaze 06:20 pm EDT 08/23/21 | |
| In reply to: ALW's Cinderella cast recording - ablankpage 02:11 pm EDT 08/23/21 | |
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| The Guardian review, posted here recently, was one of those "raves" that makes me sure I don't want to see a show--assuming I'd had any doubts before. The reviewer was all in love with the show's bitchery and camp. I hate bitchery and camp. (And ALW, of course, constitutes strike three.) I'll pass. | |
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| re: ALW's Cinderella cast recording | |
| Posted by: Leon_W 06:09 pm EDT 08/23/21 | |
| In reply to: ALW's Cinderella cast recording - ablankpage 02:11 pm EDT 08/23/21 | |
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| My thoughts are that it’s a pretty safe bet you are going to get lots of agreement for anything negative about him here. I will see the show in October and see how it works in person. The reviews have me excited enough to see it for sure. | |
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| re: ALW's Cinderella cast recording | |
| Posted by: ablankpage 09:47 am EDT 08/24/21 | |
| In reply to: re: ALW's Cinderella cast recording - Leon_W 06:09 pm EDT 08/23/21 | |
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| I'm eager to hear what you think in person. I listened to the recording both times with high hopes, but just couldn't get past the mediocrity. The reviews make me feel like it must be a solid theatrical experience though. | |
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| re: ALW's Cinderella cast recording | |
| Posted by: dooey 06:03 pm EDT 08/23/21 | |
| In reply to: ALW's Cinderella cast recording - ablankpage 02:11 pm EDT 08/23/21 | |
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| So...I've listened to it once through and was stunned at the poor quality of the lyrics. This tends to be a problem with ALW's scores, but I had expected much more from Zippel. Once I listened to it and got the concept and story-line, I really wasn't compelled to give it another listen. After reading your post, though, I started it again in the car today and found myself just skipping to those catchy tunes of "Bad Cinderella" and "I Know I Have a Heart." I'm betting a lot relies on the staging and production values, but this is probably not a cast album that I will be going back to frequently. |
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