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| Last Edit: BroadwayTonyJ 11:04 am EDT 09/03/21 | |
| Posted by: BroadwayTonyJ 11:01 am EDT 09/03/21 | |
| In reply to: Oscar Buzz for Peter Dinklage's Cyrano - dbdbdb 09:57 am EDT 09/03/21 | |
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| Does this version of Cyrano have actual songs? The credits from The New Group production do not list a composer, only 2 lyricists. Clayton Davis who writes the article in Variety refers to the 2014 film version of Into the Woods as an also-ran instead of a hit like Chicago and Dreamgirls, despite the fact that Woods had a box office take of $213.1 million on a budget of $50 million. Those numbers would indicate a hit to me. I was very impressed with Dinklage's performance as Tyrion in Game of Thrones and also his fine work in Three Billboards. |
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| An answer to your question, and general thoughts on this whole thing | |
| Posted by: earlybird 11:38 am EDT 09/03/21 | |
| In reply to: re: Oscar Buzz for Peter Dinklage's Cyrano - BroadwayTonyJ 11:01 am EDT 09/03/21 | |
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| Yes, there were original songs. I'm not sure where you're looking, but the songwriters Aaron and Bryce Dessner (from the band "The National") wrote the music, and are credited on the New Group website and in the show's program. This whole film adaptation is so bizarre to me because (a) this musical was not very well-received (although I actually enjoyed it) (b) under other circumstances, Joe Wright would be a logical choice to direct a Cyrano adaptation, but he's a weird choice for THIS specific Cyrano adaptation - which has a more of modern flavor to it, despite still being a period piece. (c) As far as I'm aware, this is the first time in decades that we've gotten a film adaptation of a musical before that musical even got a cast recording. When was the last time that happened? Rocky Horror? I don't see Dinklage getting an Oscar nom for this. It's already going to be a crowded year, and while I thought his performance Off-Broadway was good, it wasn't awards-worthy. Maybe his performance on film will be superior, but I also don't see this film becoming a big Oscar contender unless it's a major improvement over the stage version (and again, unlike most people I actually did enjoy the stage version, but it had lots of issues). |
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| re: An answer to your question, and general thoughts on this whole thing | |
| Posted by: Singapore/Fling 04:13 pm EDT 09/03/21 | |
| In reply to: An answer to your question, and general thoughts on this whole thing - earlybird 11:38 am EDT 09/03/21 | |
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| Joe Wright doesn't only do period pieces. I'd say his trademark is more the theatrical, often needlessly spectacular flourishes that he brings to his films (and his work on stage), which would suggest he might be a strong choice for a rock-influenced musical. | |
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| re: An answer to your question, and general thoughts on this whole thing | |
| Last Edit: WaymanWong 03:21 pm EDT 09/03/21 | |
| Posted by: WaymanWong 03:11 pm EDT 09/03/21 | |
| In reply to: An answer to your question, and general thoughts on this whole thing - earlybird 11:38 am EDT 09/03/21 | |
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| ''It's already going to be a crowded year.'' A couple weeks ago in Variety, Clayton Davis himself confirmed just how crowded this year will be. His analysis of the Oscar race for Best Actor listed over 60 prospects. I imagine his picks are based on his speculation, the buzz he's heard and the reputation of the artists involved. Obviously, Davis' rankings will change as he (and other critics and pundits) actually sees the films in contention. Among his predictions about performers from movies based on plays/musicals: Davis puts Andrew Garfield (''tick, tick ... Boom!'') at No. 2, followed by Denzel Washington (''The Tragedy of Macbeth'') at No. 3. Two weeks ago, he had Peter Dinklage (''Cyrano'') at No. 9. You have to skim down to No. 30 to find Anthony Ramos (''In the Heights'') and then Ben Platt (''Dear Evan Hansen'') at No. 32. Among his Unranked: Ansel Elgort (''West Side Story'') and Max Harwood (''Everybody's Talking About Jamie'') . |
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| Link | Variety.com: Oscar Predictions - Best Actor (Aug. 19, 2021) |
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| re: An answer to your question, and general thoughts on this whole thing | |
| Posted by: BroadwayTonyJ 12:22 pm EDT 09/03/21 | |
| In reply to: An answer to your question, and general thoughts on this whole thing - earlybird 11:38 am EDT 09/03/21 | |
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| I didn't see the show. The off-Broadway database (lortel.org) credits Aaron and Bryce Dessner for the orchestrations of Cyrano, but does not list a composer for the production. That's why I asked the question. After reading your post, I checked out the New Group website for Cyrano and found the proper listing of the Dessners for the show's music. I seriously doubt if there has ever been a film version of a Broadway or off-Broadway musical that did not have a cast recording, unless you count musicals from the pre-Oklahoma era. The Rocky Horror Show had 2 cast recordings before the film was made in '75. The OLC recording was made in '73. The Original Roxy cast recording was released in '74. The Roxy cast members performed their roles on Broadway in '75. Thanks for your post. |
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| re: An answer to your question, and general thoughts on this whole thing | |
| Posted by: earlybird 12:35 pm EDT 09/03/21 | |
| In reply to: re: An answer to your question, and general thoughts on this whole thing - BroadwayTonyJ 12:22 pm EDT 09/03/21 | |
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| Thanks for the correction RE Rocky Horror - all the more significant, then, that this is happening now. And yes, I'm seeing the same thing as you on the Lortel Archives. That's an error on their part! |
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| Where's Charley? | |
| Posted by: BroadwayTonyJ 12:55 pm EDT 09/03/21 | |
| In reply to: re: An answer to your question, and general thoughts on this whole thing - earlybird 12:35 pm EDT 09/03/21 | |
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| After giving it more thought, I remember that the original 1948 production of Where's Charley? didn't receive a Broadway cast recording due to a musicians strike. The Broadway production was a huge hit and was made into a movie in '52 with Ray Bolger and Allyn Ann McLerie re-creating their stage roles for the film. Strangely, the film did not yield a soundtrack recording. In '58 the first London production of Where's Charley? finally received a genuine, comprehensive cast recording of Loesser's delightful score. |
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| Posted by: DAW60 04:58 pm EDT 09/03/21 | |
| In reply to: Where's Charley? - BroadwayTonyJ 12:55 pm EDT 09/03/21 | |
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| Hair had a cast recording for its Off-Broadway version at the Public. It was reissued with the Broadway version awhile ago. I’m quite surprised Cyrano was made into a film. I saw it up at Goodspeed, and while I did enjoy it, it’s hardly one for the ages. |
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| re: Oscar Buzz for Peter Dinklage's Cyrano | |
| Posted by: Kjisgroovy 11:16 am EDT 09/03/21 | |
| In reply to: re: Oscar Buzz for Peter Dinklage's Cyrano - BroadwayTonyJ 11:01 am EDT 09/03/21 | |
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| Chicago and Dreamgirls were nominated for lots of Academy Awards, Into the Woods was not. In article about award recognition, I think Into the Woods is very clearly an also ran. | |
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| re: Oscar Buzz for Peter Dinklage's Cyrano | |
| Posted by: gad90210 11:10 am EDT 09/03/21 | |
| In reply to: re: Oscar Buzz for Peter Dinklage's Cyrano - BroadwayTonyJ 11:01 am EDT 09/03/21 | |
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| The New Group production had actual songs. I thought Dinklage was excellent in it. | |
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