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| Cursed Child-advertising? | |
| Posted by: dlittle 01:02 pm EDT 09/05/21 | |
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| The website for Harry Potter and the Cursed Child is calling it the most awarded new play in history…however, the play that is returning to Broadway is not the same play. It’s half of the same play. So similar, but untested and as of yet, I awarded in this particular version. Is that disingenuous? A flat out lie? Fair advertising because they also clearly state that it’s a new version? What are your thoughts? I will miss the full 2 part version. It was soooooooo much fun and a big part of that was leaving after a cliff hanger and returning later to see how the problems were resolved. | |
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| re: Cursed Child-advertising? | |
| Posted by: NewtonUK 02:24 pm EDT 09/05/21 | |
| In reply to: Cursed Child-advertising? - dlittle 01:02 pm EDT 09/05/21 | |
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| Dont have a problem with this - though I can't find hat tag line on the website. HP didn't win the most Tonys of any new play - it won 6. THE COAST OF UTOPIA won 7. But HP won 9 Olivier Awards as well. That's 15 awards. Not counting Drama Desk, Evening Standard etc etc. |
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| re: Cursed Child-advertising? | |
| Posted by: dlittle 03:30 pm EDT 09/05/21 | |
| In reply to: re: Cursed Child-advertising? - NewtonUK 02:24 pm EDT 09/05/21 | |
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| It says “most awards” not “most Tonys.” | |
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| re: Cursed Child-advertising? | |
| Posted by: NewtonUK 08:19 pm EDT 09/05/21 | |
| In reply to: re: Cursed Child-advertising? - dlittle 03:30 pm EDT 09/05/21 | |
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| I understand that, which i ss why I pointed out its combined Tonys and Oliviers - they may have been counting only NY awards - they dont really specify - but HP qualified on a lot of categories that plays don't usually make an impact in. | |
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| re: Cursed Child-advertising? | |
| Posted by: earlybird 02:02 pm EDT 09/05/21 | |
| In reply to: Cursed Child-advertising? - dlittle 01:02 pm EDT 09/05/21 | |
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| Its not a different play. It’s a different version of the same play, just as many plays and musicals are subjected to drastic changes through their development process, or through revised versions over the years - or in the case of many of the classics, cutting re-cut, re-translated, and/or re-interpret with every iteration. Is this a more extreme version of that? In some ways, yes. Most plays don’t get cut in half when they get edited (although that might happen with some of the more extreme cuts of Shakespeare plays). But also, it’s effectively the same production, in the sense that the direction, staging, and design are the same (albeit with some tweaks for logistics, I’m sure). And the production is what received most of the awards. Technically, Jack Thorne was awarded for his script when the production won “Best Play,” but we all know it didn’t really win for its script. So in that sense, it’s just as disingenuous to call it the “best play” of 2018 now as it was before. Also, there’s precedent for shows making major script changes after Tony season is long past, including several of Disney’s shows. But they’re still allowed to advertise their awards because it the same production, just with changes. It’s not a new production. Again - is this a more extreme case? Yes. But it’s still the same category of change. |
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| I'm okay with it | |
| Last Edit: MockingbirdGirl 01:50 pm EDT 09/05/21 | |
| Posted by: MockingbirdGirl 01:50 pm EDT 09/05/21 | |
| In reply to: Cursed Child-advertising? - dlittle 01:02 pm EDT 09/05/21 | |
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| The fact that it's a condensed version of the previous production has been pretty widely reported, and it's unlikely to be considered "new" enough to be eligible for these awards again. | |
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| re: I'm okay with it | |
| Posted by: mikem 02:04 pm EDT 09/05/21 | |
| In reply to: I'm okay with it - MockingbirdGirl 01:50 pm EDT 09/05/21 | |
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| I'm okay with it also, partially because the play is acclaimed for the production design and "magic," not because of the text. A large portion of the text is being removed, but it's a pretty safe bet that the big "wow factor" parts of the production design and magic that brought the awards are still going to be intact. What I find a bit shady is when a show trumpets elements that are no longer present. Like when a production calls a show Tony-winning when the only Tonys it won are for cast members who have departed or are not part of that particular production. Many regional productions do this. It's technically true, but I find that more misleading than Cursed Child is being. |
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| re: I'm okay with it | |
| Posted by: Chromolume 04:46 pm EDT 09/05/21 | |
| In reply to: re: I'm okay with it - mikem 02:04 pm EDT 09/05/21 | |
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| What I find a bit shady is when a show trumpets elements that are no longer present. Like when a production calls a show Tony-winning when the only Tonys it won are for cast members who have departed or are not part of that particular production. Many regional productions do this. Yup. A regional theatre using pull quotes from other former reviews to advertise their own production has always seemed to me to be more than a little Merrick-ish in design. I feel that they're secretly banking on the idea that many people won't really think about what they're reading. |
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| re: I'm okay with it | |
| Posted by: ryhog 05:21 pm EDT 09/05/21 | |
| In reply to: re: I'm okay with it - Chromolume 04:46 pm EDT 09/05/21 | |
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| Or a revival that quotes the original production's reviews, but you obviously know it happens all the time. On the continuum from transparent to "Merrick-ish," though, I'd scale this one somewhere in the middle. At least they can concoct a defense if they need to. | |
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