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re: Lola in "Come Back, Little Sheba" is routinely in reviews and analysis as "slovenly"
Posted by: BroadwayTonyJ 12:15 pm EDT 09/22/21
In reply to: re: Lola in "Come Back, Little Sheba" is routinely in reviews and analysis as "slovenly" - Ann 08:06 pm EDT 09/20/21

"It's often a term overweight people get simply for being overweight." Really? Often? According to whom? That is your perception and you are certainly entitled to your opinion, but frankly you seem paranoid about it. Today the word is rarely used in everyday speech. I'm not sure I have ever spoken in it in a conversation with others. Do you ever use it when speaking with others?

Historically, I've noticed the word in classical literature like Dickens' novels David Copperfield and Oliver Twist. It's also used to describe certain characters in O'Neill's dramas like Anna Christie (Marthy Owen comes to mind) and The Iceman Cometh. In addition to Lola in Inge's Come Back, Little Sheba, Ma Martin in Kingsley's Dead End has been described with the word. Over the years small, even petite actresses have portrayed these characters on stage and in films, notably Thelma Ritter and S. Epatha Merkerson -- BTW I have met her -- she is definitely not a big woman, in fact, she's rather small, even dainty.

"Slovenly" frequently refers to a character's attitude, behavior, and speech. My comment about Linda Tripp was about her character, the way she behaved, the way she talked down to others. I never mentioned her appearance. My 10-word clause also included the adjectives "despicable, vile, gossipy, incompetent", a list of terms which could not possibly be about her physical appearance. How can you honestly feel that I was criticizing her size or weight?

In the 3 episodes I have watched, Tripp makes comments to a colleague about Hillary Clinton using a communal women's bathroom. She constantly belittles a lowly aide. She sneaks around the West Wing eavesdropping on her superiors. She sticks her unwashed hand in a candy dish instead of using a spoon. She chomps loudly on a candy bar to irritate the other lady in her cubicle. If that's not gross, unseemly, and (yes) even slovenly behavior, then what is? Especially for a high-level aide working in the White House and Pentagon.
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