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| Posted by: Michael_Portantiere 04:41 pm EDT 10/02/21 | |
| In reply to: Dear Mr. Roper - stevemr 04:28 pm EDT 10/02/21 | |
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| "Evan didn't write that letter to a friend. He wrote it to himself." I believe you have missed the point, which is that Connor's mother -- and, eventually, lots of other people -- BELIEVE that Connor wrote the letter to Evan. Which means no one finds it odd that someone like Connor would use the "Dear" salutation in addressing Evan, not do they find it incredibly strange that Connor would use Evan's full name in writing a letter to him. Seriously, how often have you received a personal note from a friend with a salutation that contained your full first and last names? This is something that simply never happens. Which is why, from the beginning, I've said that the only major problem I have with DEAR EVAN HANSEN is the title -- but I've never heard of anyone else sharing that opinion until someone posted this about Richard Roper. P.S. All of the above on top of the fact that nowadays, as far as I know, when teenagers write to one another, they almost always do so via texts or maybe emails. And the percentage of times when they instead do so by composing a letter with a word processing program, then printing it out to hand to the recipient, is likely very close to zero. So this, to me, is yet another problem with the central plot point of DEAR EVAN HANSEN. |
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| Posted by: Teacher64 12:38 pm EDT 10/03/21 | |
| In reply to: re: Dear Mr. Roper - Michael_Portantiere 04:41 pm EDT 10/02/21 | |
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| ....the person assumed to be writing the letter (in this case Connor) has committed suicide and the letter was his "Goodbye" letter and he wanted to make sure that it went to the right "Evan". | |
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| Posted by: Michael_Portantiere 08:09 pm EDT 10/03/21 | |
| In reply to: Unless..... - Teacher64 12:38 pm EDT 10/03/21 | |
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| "....the person assumed to be writing the letter (in this case Connor) has committed suicide and the letter was his 'Goodbye' letter and he wanted to make sure that it went to the right 'Evan'." Interesting, but the content of the note is nothing like that of a suicide note. And also, that brings up all sorts of questions as to why Connor would have been carrying around a hard copy of a letter that he hadn't delivered to the recipient, let alone why he didn't just write to Evan via text or email. |
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| re: Dear Mr. Roper | |
| Posted by: comedywest 11:11 am EDT 10/03/21 | |
| In reply to: re: Dear Mr. Roper - Michael_Portantiere 04:41 pm EDT 10/02/21 | |
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| "Good grief, Charlie Brown" That's the only time off hand I can recall friends calling another friend by their full name. And when we watched it as kids, we all said, "They all call him by his full name. No one does that." |
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| re: Dear Mr. Roper | |
| Posted by: Michael_Portantiere 08:14 pm EDT 10/03/21 | |
| In reply to: re: Dear Mr. Roper - comedywest 11:11 am EDT 10/03/21 | |
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| "Good grief, Charlie Brown" That's the only time off hand I can recall friends calling another friend by their full name. And when we watched it as kids, we all said, "They all call him by his full name. No one does that." Exactly. Thank you :-) But, of course, that's part of the joke in Peanuts; the other characters call Charlie Brown by his full name as some sort of stylized conceit to bring home the fact that he is somehow separate from all of the other kids. Very different situation with DEAR EVAN HANSEN. |
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| re: Dear Mr. Roper | |
| Posted by: Chromolume 09:09 pm EDT 10/03/21 | |
| In reply to: re: Dear Mr. Roper - Michael_Portantiere 08:14 pm EDT 10/03/21 | |
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| I'm also not aware that anyone else, aside from Lucy and Linus (Van Pelt) even had a last name. :-) | |
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| That’s a style feature that goes back to the very first strip of PEANUTS | |
| Posted by: showtunetrivia 04:40 pm EDT 10/03/21 | |
| In reply to: re: Dear Mr. Roper - comedywest 11:11 am EDT 10/03/21 | |
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| In which Shermy and Patty (not the later Peppermit Patty) watch Charlie Brown pass, and remark, “Here comes Charlie Brown. Good ol’ Charlie Brown. How I hate him.” He’s never just plain Charlie, though Peppermint Patty calls him Chuck. Laura, comics nerd |
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| re: Dear Mr. Roper | |
| Posted by: J.Collins 03:14 am EDT 10/03/21 | |
| In reply to: re: Dear Mr. Roper - Michael_Portantiere 04:41 pm EDT 10/02/21 | |
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| The problem here is that just because it's not something you (or your friends) would do, you find it impossible to believe that ANYONE would do it. People have all sorts of in jokes, nicknames, 'oddities' that they share with friends. If you were writing letters to each other for a 'lark' (a seemingly antiquated practice) it makes total sense to me that you might match that with the highly affected "Dear Evan Hansen". People have all sorts of quirks, just because they don't happen to align with yours doesn't make them impossible. You've expressed attitudes and behavior on here that I find 'unbelievable', so everyone is different. | |
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| re: Dear Mr. Roper | |
| Posted by: Michael_Portantiere 11:04 am EDT 10/03/21 | |
| In reply to: re: Dear Mr. Roper - J.Collins 03:14 am EDT 10/03/21 | |
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| I don't think your snarky response was justified, and I stand by my feeling that no one would ever write a serious, heartfelt letter to someone else and use that person's full name and address as the salutation. I suppose it's possible, as you say, that someone might do that with a light or jokey letter, as sort of an in-joke satirizing the formality of letters, but that hardly describes the letter that causes all the trouble in DEAR EVAN HANSEN. | |
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| re: Dear Mr. Roper | |
| Posted by: J.Collins 10:15 pm EDT 10/03/21 | |
| In reply to: re: Dear Mr. Roper - Michael_Portantiere 11:04 am EDT 10/03/21 | |
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| No snark, just facts. You've said things on here I would NEVER say. All I'm saying is that sometimes people behave in ways that you don't 'get' (as you have done on here), that doesn't make the behavior impossible | |
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| re: Dear Mr. Roper | |
| Posted by: Sam890 10:31 pm EDT 10/03/21 | |
| In reply to: re: Dear Mr. Roper - J.Collins 10:15 pm EDT 10/03/21 | |
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| I agree. Once I would have thought "surely nobody would joke about suicide on a public forum", but Mr Portantiere proved me wrong there. People (and characters) are always behaving in ways we may not understand, that's what makes life interesting, I guess | |
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