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| re: comparison with Greatest Showman | |
| Last Edit: jo 10:37 am EDT 10/03/21 | |
| Posted by: jo 10:24 am EDT 10/03/21 | |
| In reply to: 88% on Rotten Tomatoes - Teacher64 09:56 am EDT 10/03/21 | |
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| By the second weekend, The Greatest Showman started flexing its muscles...and continued for months. Its domestic take ( $ 174 M) was actually below its overseas results ($ 261 M). So the appeal was across borders, across ages and gender. Many publications took note of its phenomenal success not just at the box office but also at the charts ( it was 2018 worldwide best-selling album, overtaking even the pop music albums). I remember that New York Times, wanting to look further at the phenomenon , asked its readers to share the movie's appeal. They were immediately flooded with replies ( something like 1250). Forbes.com which initially did not think much of how the movie will appeal to audiences had to take back its initial judgment and wrote about it on its weekly trend at the box office. Another measure of its success was its home video performance in the USA, practically overtaking Star Wars at the very top for that year's sales. One major difference about the 2 movies is that The Greatest Showman was developed from the start as a movie musical while Dear Evan Hansen is a film adaptation of the stage musical ( not always a successful route). 2009 Oscars producers Lawrence Mark and Bill Condon had seen Hugh Jackman rehearsing for the Oscars hosting and suggested to him a Barnum film musical. HJ announced the project in 2009 and it took almost 8 years for it become a movie, a FOX studio project. Instrumental to its success was director Michael Gracey who worked hard with Pasek & Paul to develop the musical score, providing them with the themes he wanted to be translated musically-speaking ( you can see this on the Blu-Ray feature) and it took many workshops (actually involving Hugh and Broadway stars like Aaron Tveit & Sutton Foster at the start, Keala, etc ( you can see them in that clip of From Now On relased before the movie opened to general audiences). |
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| Link | https://www.boxofficemojo.com/release/rl1700234753/weekend/?ref_=bo_tt_gr#table |
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| I seriously hope..... | |
| Posted by: Teacher64 12:23 pm EDT 10/03/21 | |
| In reply to: re: comparison with Greatest Showman - jo 10:24 am EDT 10/03/21 | |
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| ...that when DEH is released on home video blu-ray that it has as many wonderful features as THE GREATEST SHOWMAN's release had. That is the one thing that keeps me buying physical discs, they tend to have features and commentaries that you don't get from streaming videos. I'd love to see lots of "making of" features, maybe even a feature looking at the success of the stage show, with commentaries from the director, Platt (though that may be a hard sell for him), and especially Pasek and Paul. They need to treat the video release of the film as the success that the audience scores on RT suggest it is, despite its box office. | |
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| re: I seriously hope..... | |
| Posted by: skier74 01:09 am EDT 10/06/21 | |
| In reply to: I seriously hope..... - Teacher64 12:23 pm EDT 10/03/21 | |
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| Oh please, there's nothing inherent about a physical disk that makes it more likely to have extras. You certainly get that on streaming series, Handmaid's Tale on Hulu comes to mind with a 3 minute "inside the episode" for every episode and more recently an even more in-depth discussion with various cast members. | |
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| Unlikely… | |
| Posted by: ShowGoer 06:26 pm EDT 10/03/21 | |
| In reply to: I seriously hope..... - Teacher64 12:23 pm EDT 10/03/21 | |
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| Sources suggest that it seems as though the 4K home release has been canceled, leaving the film to only get a standard Blu-ray. 4K is still a more specialized but rapidly growing market, and nearly every major new movie is released on that format now… the one exception I can think of, where a 4K was initially announced and then quietly pulled? Cats. I doubt it will only get a bare-bones physical release, with no special features at all- but it will hardly receive the lavish Greatest Showman treatment. |
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| re: I seriously hope..... | |
| Posted by: jo 06:09 pm EDT 10/03/21 | |
| In reply to: I seriously hope..... - Teacher64 12:23 pm EDT 10/03/21 | |
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| That's true - some special features add to a fuller appreciation of the creative effort. Unfortunately, studios are not keen to add special features (other than perhaps already part of the filming effort before) when a movie falters significantly vs expectations. Best case was when Darren Aronofsky uploaded his own Director's Commentary for The Fountain when WarnerBros refused the offer because the movie faltered at the box office. Interestingly the movie became a cult favorite and was re-released on its 10th year anniversary. |
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| re: comparison with Greatest Showman | |
| Posted by: jo 10:33 am EDT 10/03/21 | |
| In reply to: re: comparison with Greatest Showman - jo 10:24 am EDT 10/03/21 | |
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| There was an interesting discussion on Twitter on why Dear Evan Hansen seemed to have failed at the box office vs The Greatest Showman as their musical scores were both composed by Peter&Paul. One reply came from a former Fox employee "ash @Quiet__Earp I worked for Fox at the time and, honestly, it outstripped all expectations of success like you wouldn't believe. I'm talking 5x above forecast in the box office and then 2/3x in home ent. Was insane how popular it was. Was genuinely expected to do next to nothing." |
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| re: comparison with Greatest Showman | |
| Posted by: jo 06:12 pm EDT 10/03/21 | |
| In reply to: re: comparison with Greatest Showman - jo 10:33 am EDT 10/03/21 | |
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| Sorry, I meant Pasek & Paul. | |
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| Sometimes you feel like a nut .. | |
| Posted by: Ann 07:05 pm EDT 10/03/21 | |
| In reply to: re: comparison with Greatest Showman - jo 06:12 pm EDT 10/03/21 | |
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| Sorry, you probably have to be old and/or chocolate obsessed to get that. I am both. | |
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| re: Sometimes you feel like a nut .. | |
| Posted by: jo 07:34 pm EDT 10/03/21 | |
| In reply to: Sometimes you feel like a nut .. - Ann 07:05 pm EDT 10/03/21 | |
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| Lol! Not exactly... More like raised in the Roman Cathoic faith. |
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| 'She's a nut, she's a nut, she's a real religious nut ...' | |
| Last Edit: WaymanWong 08:48 pm EDT 10/03/21 | |
| Posted by: WaymanWong 08:40 pm EDT 10/03/21 | |
| In reply to: re: Sometimes you feel like a nut .. - jo 07:34 pm EDT 10/03/21 | |
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| Oops! I was reminded of Imogene Coca's kooky character in ''On the 20th Century.'' ;) | |
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