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| Jane Lynch, not Rosie, playing Mrs Brice. nm | |
| Last Edit: KingSpeed 12:59 pm EDT 10/06/21 | |
| Posted by: KingSpeed 12:58 pm EDT 10/06/21 | |
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| Posted by: JT 02:44 pm EDT 10/06/21 | |
| In reply to: Jane Lynch, not Rosie, playing Mrs Brice. nm - KingSpeed 12:58 pm EDT 10/06/21 | |
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| Another case of where a Jewish actress wasn't cast to play a Jewish woman. No offense to Jane Lynch, but this smacks of "Jewface". Representation matters and this casting is offensive. | |
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| Posted by: KingSpeed 02:58 am EDT 10/07/21 | |
| In reply to: re: What?.... - JT 02:44 pm EDT 10/06/21 | |
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| How do you know Jane Lynch isn’t Jewish? How are directors supposed to tell if they are Jewish at auditions? Would the union even allow them to ask? | |
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| Posted by: Singapore/Fling 05:21 pm EDT 10/07/21 | |
| In reply to: re: What?.... - KingSpeed 02:58 am EDT 10/07/21 | |
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| There are lots of ways to ask people about their backgrounds, beliefs, and cultural practices without directly asking the question. | |
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| well, talking about her Catholic upbringing in her autobiography is a clue... (NM) | |
| Posted by: Seth Christenfeld (tabula-rasa@verizon.net) 12:25 pm EDT 10/07/21 | |
| In reply to: re: What?.... - KingSpeed 02:58 am EDT 10/07/21 | |
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| Seth, sigh | |
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| Posted by: rikepsych 11:50 pm EDT 10/06/21 | |
| In reply to: re: What?.... - JT 02:44 pm EDT 10/06/21 | |
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| Jane Lynch will be great. Her character in Mrs Maisel is based in Fanny Brice. She will nail it. I love this casting choice. |
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| Posted by: MockingbirdGirl 04:30 pm EDT 10/07/21 | |
| In reply to: re: What?.... - rikepsych 11:50 pm EDT 10/06/21 | |
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| Not so. Her character in Mrs. Maisel owes more to Phyllis Diller. (The fact that Mrs. Maisel is set decades after Brice was active should also have been a clue.) And no, "Phyllis Ada Driver" wasn't Jewish, either. |
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| Posted by: comedywest 11:51 am EDT 10/10/21 | |
| In reply to: re: What?.... - MockingbirdGirl 04:30 pm EDT 10/07/21 | |
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| In an interview, Rachel Brosnahan said she based it on Jean Carroll. But I'm not sure I see that: Carroll used to tell her jokes quickly, figuring if one didn't land there was another coming right behind it. |
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| Posted by: MockingbirdGirl 03:17 pm EDT 10/11/21 | |
| In reply to: re: What?.... - comedywest 11:51 am EDT 10/10/21 | |
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| I think that Midge (Brosnahan's character) does owe a lot to Jean Carroll, but Sophie Lennon—Jane Lynch's character—is more Diller. | |
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| re: What?....Beanie Feldstein is the lead | |
| Posted by: Thom915 06:41 pm EDT 10/06/21 | |
| In reply to: re: What?.... - JT 02:44 pm EDT 10/06/21 | |
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| Beanie Feldstein is the lead in this musical and will appear all thoroughout the show putting her imprint and visage in this role. The fact that a secondary role was cast by a non-Jewish actress hardly smacks of "Jewface" I note you are not complaining that Nicky Arnstein is played by an Iranian actor and Eddie Ryan by a Black actor. I find the casting for this revival to be wonderfully appropriate and you to be extremely selective. | |
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| Posted by: portenopete 04:45 pm EDT 10/06/21 | |
| In reply to: re: What?.... - JT 02:44 pm EDT 10/06/21 | |
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| The tradition of casting Mrs. Brice: Kay Medford, Maureen Stapleton, Tyne Daly, Jayne Houdyshell: not one of them was/is Jewish. Who cares? They were- to varying degrees- all great. (Any record of Lillian Roth? Was she any better?) Valerie Harper and Nancy Walker were both shiksas who played probably the most iconic Jewish characters in mid-century American TV. The most-celebrated anti-Semite and anti-Catholic character Archie Bunker (and his UK equivalent Alf Garnett) were played by a Jew and a Catholic! Sean Penn was a deeply moving and accurate (as far as I can tell) Harvey Milk. I think it's great and adds verisimilitude when a role is played by someone with a lived experience similar to their character. And it's a good thing to open up the acting opportunities for marginalised communities. But "offensive"? Does a murderer have a right to gripe when they cast- as they inevitably do- a non-murderer as Jack the Ripper? Or a non-vampire as Dracula? |
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| re: Maureen Stapleton, Tyne Daly, Jayne Houdyshell did BIRDIE not FG | |
| Posted by: champagnesalesman 12:23 am EDT 10/07/21 | |
| In reply to: re: What?.... - portenopete 04:45 pm EDT 10/06/21 | |
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| Kay Medford did both Jackie Hoffman can definitely tone it down and be serious as in the recent FRUMA SARAH play. Randy Graff and Alix Korey(both Jewish) would have been great as Rose Brice and Strakosh in the Ambrose production they were about to start rehearsing when the plug was pulled. Carol Burnett told the producers of the original FG they needed a Jewish girl for the part to make it work. You could substitute NEW YORK for Jewish. as noted Bancroft believably did many times...Anne Meara also, similar to Medford. Beanie is from LA("out of town Jewish" to quote Neil Simon) Jane Lynch is very midwestern but she is sardonic. She's also 6 feet tall. Totally agree about GOLDEN GIRLS...the odds are ALL four of those women in Miami would have been Jewish. Fran Drescher said they wanted to make THE NANNY Italian too. |
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| Jerry Stiller on "Seinfeld" | |
| Posted by: PlayWiz 11:43 am EDT 10/07/21 | |
| In reply to: re: Maureen Stapleton, Tyne Daly, Jayne Houdyshell did BIRDIE not FG - champagnesalesman 12:23 am EDT 10/07/21 | |
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| Once saw him at a Lower East Side festival being interviewed, and they asked him about the name "Costanza", and he said something like "Yeah, that name wasn't quite appropriate for the family that was portrayed", especially since he and Alexander are Jewish (and the lady who played the Mom also looked like my Jewish aunt). | |
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| re: Jerry Stiller on "Seinfeld" | |
| Posted by: comedywest 11:56 am EDT 10/10/21 | |
| In reply to: Jerry Stiller on "Seinfeld" - PlayWiz 11:43 am EDT 10/07/21 | |
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| On Politically Incorrect in the 1990s, Bill Maher said to Jason Alexander that "your shows must be popular in the Middle East." and Alexander laughed and said, "I doubt a show about the problems of four self-absorbed Jews carries much weight in the Arab world." To be honest, I never thought of it that way. I always thought the show about four self-absorbed New Yorkers... |
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| In the case of "Seinfeld"... | |
| Last Edit: MockingbirdGirl 06:40 pm EDT 10/07/21 | |
| Posted by: MockingbirdGirl 06:39 pm EDT 10/07/21 | |
| In reply to: Jerry Stiller on "Seinfeld" - PlayWiz 11:43 am EDT 10/07/21 | |
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| ... the story I've always heard is that the NBC execs asked Larry David & Jerry Seinfeld not to make all of the characters Jewish, so George's last name was changed to Costanza... but they didn't change his character at all. Also, the Festivus "airing of grievances" might be the most Jewish thing ever. :) |
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| re: Maureen Stapleton, Tyne Daly, Jayne Houdyshell did BIRDIE not FG | |
| Posted by: Chromolume 12:32 am EDT 10/07/21 | |
| In reply to: re: Maureen Stapleton, Tyne Daly, Jayne Houdyshell did BIRDIE not FG - champagnesalesman 12:23 am EDT 10/07/21 | |
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| Totally agree about GOLDEN GIRLS...the odds are ALL four of those women in Miami would have been Jewish. Am I mistaken or didn't Blanche discover she had some Jewish lineage? |
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| re: Maureen Stapleton, Tyne Daly, Jayne Houdyshell did BIRDIE not FG | |
| Posted by: Thom915 03:47 pm EDT 10/07/21 | |
| In reply to: re: Maureen Stapleton, Tyne Daly, Jayne Houdyshell did BIRDIE not FG - Chromolume 12:32 am EDT 10/07/21 | |
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| Why? How many of my Irish aunts moved to Miami or North Miami? How many of my Italian friends? Quite a few! | |
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| re: Maureen Stapleton, Tyne Daly, Jayne Houdyshell did BIRDIE not FG | |
| Posted by: Roman 08:23 am EDT 10/07/21 | |
| In reply to: re: Maureen Stapleton, Tyne Daly, Jayne Houdyshell did BIRDIE not FG - Chromolume 12:32 am EDT 10/07/21 | |
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| A Feldman. From Buffalo. | |
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| re: What?.... | |
| Posted by: Chromolume 09:09 pm EDT 10/06/21 | |
| In reply to: re: What?.... - portenopete 04:45 pm EDT 10/06/21 | |
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| The tradition of casting Mrs. Brice: Kay Medford, Maureen Stapleton, Tyne Daly, Jayne Houdyshell: not one of them was/is Jewish. Much as I am ok with the casting in this case, I will also say that prior casting of any role is no longer a valid argument. In fact, it's exactly the wrong argument to make. |
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| Posted by: Delvino 07:34 pm EDT 10/06/21 | |
| In reply to: re: What?.... - portenopete 04:45 pm EDT 10/06/21 | |
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| I just came from the matinee of Hamilton (unexpected gift), and saw the expert Jin Ha play Burr, in a company with Latine and African-Americans in every major role. We live in a wonderful era with casting itself becoming an art form. I'm open to just about anyone playing any role. No exceptions. I probably was not quite so open as recently as 25 years ago. We grow, we evolve, and the industry does the same. | |
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| As an actress friend once said ... | |
| Posted by: Alcindoro 05:46 pm EDT 10/06/21 | |
| In reply to: re: What?.... - portenopete 04:45 pm EDT 10/06/21 | |
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| "You don't have to murder your kids to play Medea ... but I can see where it might help." | |
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| Posted by: MockingbirdGirl 05:02 pm EDT 10/06/21 | |
| In reply to: re: What?.... - portenopete 04:45 pm EDT 10/06/21 | |
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| Does a murderer have a right to gripe when they cast- as they inevitably do- a non-murderer as Jack the Ripper? Or a non-vampire as Dracula? Yes, it's a shame that out of the enormous pool of actors who have committed murder, none seem to be cast as either the Ripper or Dracula. The fact that you consider the subject to be facetious rather than worthy of serious consideration is duly noted. But recall how many people in this very forum spoke about how meaningful it was when the recent Boys in the Band was cast entirely with openly gay actors. Could it have been done with an all-straight cast? Sure. But for many people, the casting itself had significance and brought authenticity to the performances. Joe Mantello said: "I think having an out gay cast really did inform the work and it took on a particular kind of tone because of that, which is not to say that's the only way to approach this material. But for this particular group, it did something that I think is very, very special. There's a chemistry that they have." That's what people are talking about. It shouldn't be that difficult to empathize with the sentiment, even if you disagree with the practice. |
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| Posted by: portenopete 11:50 pm EDT 10/06/21 | |
| In reply to: re: What?.... - MockingbirdGirl 05:02 pm EDT 10/06/21 | |
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| "I think having an out gay cast really did inform the work and it took on a particular kind of tone because of that, which is not to say that's the only way to approach this material." You've helped confirm my point. It's great and good to cast Jews in Funny Girl. But it's not the ONLY way and I pity the folks who are "offended". I'm an openly gay man who liked the Transport Group's production of The Boys in the Band just as much as the Scott Rudin production. (Did his gayness make him a better producer of that show?) Cliff Gorman- for my money- can't be beaten as Emory and he was very straight, no? |
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| Posted by: WWriter 03:38 pm EDT 10/06/21 | |
| In reply to: re: What?.... - JT 02:44 pm EDT 10/06/21 | |
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| I'm a Jew (a very very nonpracticing Jew), and I sort of agree with JT and sort of don't. I have frequently been annoyed by the casting of non-Jews in Jewish roles, but only up to a point. Many people of other ethnic groups can play Jews very effectively and convincingly, and isn't that the point? And, isn't it sort of reductive to make Jewishness the major defining character of a person? But, most importantly, I feel 100% that artists/actors/writers should not be limited by anything but their talent and their humanity. That's the baseline, isn't it? To do a good job? |
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| Posted by: Zelgo 02:47 pm EDT 10/06/21 | |
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| I think we're all missing the point of being an actor--being something on stage that you personally are not. Asians, African Americans, LGBT have been underrepresented on stage and feel they should at least play roles representing them. So I understand their gripe when someone not of their background plays their roles. Have Jews been so underrepresented? |
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| Posted by: DavidEsq 10:25 am EDT 10/07/21 | |
| In reply to: re: What?.... - Zelgo 02:47 pm EDT 10/06/21 | |
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| Actually - in some instances, yes they have been or if they've been represented they're represented far more narrowly than they should be - particularly when casting actors who "look" Jewish in many types of roles. Ethnicity is one thing when it's apparent on the surface. But this is the natural extension of the complaints about actors playing roles of who they are not in real life. If you're going to complain about a straight actor playing a LGBT role or other roles where you now have to inquire with the actor things about them that aren't physically apparent, then this complaint is absolutely justified. I personally am not offended and don't mind the casting but to me it's a package deal with many of the other complaints I also don't agree with. | |
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| Kay Medford (re: What?....) | |
| Posted by: Marlo*Manners 03:32 pm EDT 10/06/21 | |
| In reply to: re: What?.... - Zelgo 02:47 pm EDT 10/06/21 | |
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| Kay Medford originated the role of Mrs. Brice in the Broadway and Hollywood film adaptation of "Funny Girl". Her birth name was Margaret Kathleen Regan or O'Regan. Irish Catholic. Joan Rivers also spoke out against "Jewface" when discussing the 1993 film version of "The Cemetery Club" starring Ellen Burstyn and Diane Ladd and Olympia Dukakis (Lainie Kazan was the only Jew in the movie). The 1986 movie version of "Brighton Beach Memoirs" cast uber-shiksa Blythe Danner as the strong Jewish mother Kate Jerome and many complained she was miscast. Italian-American Anne Bancroft played her share of Jewish mothers - but she had an urban ethnic New York sensibility (and was a superb actress). There is a certain "New York Jewish" thing as well as Jewish humor that are hard to capture if you aren't the authentic real thing and can feel like fake caricature if "acted". I think Jane Lynch will be good in the part, Jewish or no. Marlo Manners (Lady Barrington) |
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| And then there's intentional effort to eschew caricature or archetype: Feiffer's Grown Ups | |
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| Jules Feiffer was adamant that the complex mother in his (wonderful) play Grown Ups be cast and played 180 from the popular cultural archetype. He discusses it in detail in the printed text*. On Broadway, Frances Sternhagen basically started from scratch, subtly building a woman who tossed in Yiddishisms with quotations marks around them, who self-presented in such a way that any of the cliches were handled performatively. She was absolutely unlike any "Jewish Mother" that we had seen. And the woman's power was in her absolute avoidance of overt displays of matriarchal control; and we never see any (cliched) aggression, at least until quite late in the third act. It was a brilliant, boldly original performance that incrementally made a case for a particular New York woman whose issues were not tethered to an ethnic identity. Feiffer wanted us to see this woman without the baggage *we* might bring. Without pre-judging her, certainly the way entertainment so often characterizes the larger-than-life Jewish women of Manhattan. In the very good Showtime iteration, the role fell to Jean Stapleton, a bizarre choice to many. The performance isn't entirely successful, but she nailed what Feiffer wanted, and carved out an entirely original woman. *UPDATE: Not wanting to misrepresent the playwright's wishes in a paraphrase, I pulled down my French script. Feiffer's words; "The strongest of them, Helen, cannot be played as a stereotypical stage or TV Jewish mother, or the play sinks like a stone. She dereives from another, less familiar tradition. Her style is cheerful; she has cultivated a genteel, educated, ladylike manner. Her forays into Yiddishisms, while used fondly, have a touch of condescension. Her flirtatiousness and playfulness are conscious choices, done for effect. Her power is innate, rarely calling for naked display. She is the motor of act one." |
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| Posted by: MockingbirdGirl 03:05 pm EDT 10/06/21 | |
| In reply to: re: What?.... - Zelgo 02:47 pm EDT 10/06/21 | |
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| Have Jews been so underrepresented? Well... Felicity Jones (not Jewish) played Ruth Bader Ginsberg in On the Basis of Sex. Rachel Brosnahan (not Jewish) plays the Marvellous Mrs Maisel. In Mrs. America, Betty Friedan, Bella Abzug and Gloria Steinem were played by Tracy Ullman, Margo Martindale and Rose Byrne—none of whom are Jewish. Kathryn Hahn (not Jewish) has been cast as Joan Rivers. Make no mistake, I admire a lot of these performers. But this looks suspiciously like a trend. As anti-Semitism is on the rise, when does it stop being acceptable to water down Jewish representation in TV and film? |
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| Posted by: KingSpeed 02:46 am EDT 10/07/21 | |
| In reply to: re: What?.... - MockingbirdGirl 03:05 pm EDT 10/06/21 | |
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| Judaism is a religion, not a race. Anyone can be Jewish if they want to. | |
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| Last Edit: MockingbirdGirl 04:20 pm EDT 10/07/21 | |
| Posted by: MockingbirdGirl 04:16 pm EDT 10/07/21 | |
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| Judaism is a religion, not a race. Anyone can be Jewish if they want to. It's both. That's why sites like Ancestry.com and 23andMe.com return results with Jewish as an ethnicity, and why 'Sephardic' and 'Ashkenazi' are not just ethnic but also religious designations. |
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| Posted by: Zelgo 09:18 pm EDT 10/06/21 | |
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| The fact that there are so many Jewish roles goes against the idea that anti-Semitism is somehow affecting theatre and TV. The big fear I have in demanding that only Jews play Jews (or gays play gays) is that most roles are not Jews or gays. Does that mean only Wasps must play Wasps? That would cuts Jews and Gays (and others) from most roles. |
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| Posted by: MockingbirdGirl 09:35 pm EDT 10/06/21 | |
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| The fact that there are so many Jewish roles goes against the idea that anti-Semitism is somehow affecting theatre and TV. Not sure I agree with that, especially if making them less obviously "Jewy" is part of the equation. And no one has actually suggested that "X can only play X." But the absence of Jews playing Jews is not passing unnoticed. Nor should it. |
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| Sarah Silverman cited many of these same examples in her recent podcast, calling out ''Jewface'' in Hollywood. The comic's had her own reckoning about ethnic issues, admitting: ''There are jokes I made 15 years ago I would absolutely not make today.'' In 2007, she appeared in blackface for a sketch on her Comedy Central show, which she now disavows and is ''horrified'' by. Silverman might've first made my radar when she was on Conan O'Brien's late-night show in 2001. She joked about trying to avoid jury duty: “My friend is like, ‘Why don’t you write something inappropriate on the form like ‘I hate Chinks,’ ” Silverman said. But, because she didn’t want people to think she was racist, she joked, “I just filled out the form and I wrote ‘I love Chinks’ — and who doesn’t?” |
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| Link | Indiewire.com: Sarah Silverman Calls Out Hollywood's 'Jewface' Problem |
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| Posted by: Roman 05:05 pm EDT 10/06/21 | |
| In reply to: re: What?.... - MockingbirdGirl 03:05 pm EDT 10/06/21 | |
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| I’m in agreement with you here. I can’t believe, with all the talented Jewish actresses/comediennes in New York, they came up with Jane Lynch. I mean, Jackie Hoffman, if she could contain the urge to mug, would have been divine. It still bugs me that Bea Arthur and Estelle Getty were hired to play Italian Catholics (they were never convincing, as such). Why the creators chose not to make the characters Jewish, I’ll never know. Estelle Getty’s tenor and rhythm always reminded me of me Aunt Rhoda, who spoke fluent Yiddish. But so does Nancy Walker as Aida Morgenstern, Rhoda’s mother. Nancy wasn’t Jewish, but she sure was convincing — at least in her earlier appearances. |
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| Are directors supposed to ask if an actor is Jewish? | |
| Posted by: KingSpeed 02:48 am EDT 10/07/21 | |
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| Or do they just guess by stereotypical mannerisms? | |
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| No, not really - though certain cultural references sometimes are shared in conversation - like "what did you do over Christmas?" "Oh, you mean Chanukah, sorry, me too!" | |
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| Posted by: PlayWiz 11:36 am EDT 10/07/21 | |
| In reply to: Are directors supposed to ask if an actor is Jewish? - KingSpeed 02:48 am EDT 10/07/21 | |
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| Sometimes last names are a hint, though I think they might go astray with Whoopi Goldberg! | |
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| re: No, not really - though certain cultural references sometimes are shared in conversation - like "what did you do over Christmas?" "Oh, you mean Chanukah, sorry, me too!" | |
| Posted by: KingSpeed 04:41 pm EDT 10/12/21 | |
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| None of a director's business what an actor did over Christmas? Are you really suggesting that only people who celebrate Hanukkah can play Jewish characters? | |
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| re: No, not really - though certain cultural references sometimes are shared in conversation - like "what did you do over Christmas?" "Oh, you mean Chanukah, sorry, me too!" | |
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| Not at all. Just in conversation one can sometimes glean things about a person -- their significant other, what holiday is appropriate to wish them, any children, age, etc. which may, may, factor at some point into a casting situation, possibly for a future show. | |
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| re: No, not really - though certain cultural references sometimes are shared in conversation - like "what did you do over Christmas?" "Oh, you mean Chanukah, sorry, me too!" | |
| Posted by: Chromolume 12:13 pm EDT 10/07/21 | |
| In reply to: No, not really - though certain cultural references sometimes are shared in conversation - like "what did you do over Christmas?" "Oh, you mean Chanukah, sorry, me too!" - PlayWiz 11:36 am EDT 10/07/21 | |
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| This is really becoming a hateful conversation. | |
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| In reply to: re: No, not really - though certain cultural references sometimes are shared in conversation - like "what did you do over Christmas?" "Oh, you mean Chanukah, sorry, me too!" - Chromolume 12:13 pm EDT 10/07/21 | |
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| No hateful intention. Just observation - the same way people try to find out your age by asking when you graduated from school or, in a more roundabout way, did you go to such school with so and so (whose age they may know). | |
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| Posted by: showtunesoprano 05:21 pm EDT 10/06/21 | |
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| If you saw the Yiddish Fiddler on the Roof, you know that Jackie Hoffman can ABSOLUTELY contain the urge to mug. | |
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| Posted by: PlayWiz 05:39 pm EDT 10/06/21 | |
| In reply to: re: What?.... - showtunesoprano 05:21 pm EDT 10/06/21 | |
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| Jackie Hoffman was also terrific, restrained and very much in character in the miniseries "Feud" about Bette Davis and Joan Crawford making "Whatever Happened to Baby Jane?" | |
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| Tale of Hoffman | |
| Posted by: WaymanWong 11:00 pm EDT 10/06/21 | |
| In reply to: re: What?.... - PlayWiz 05:39 pm EDT 10/06/21 | |
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| Jackie Hoffman tweeted: “So the director of the new 'Funny Girl' saw me play Yente in Yiddish 'Fiddler' and didn’t cast me as the Jewish mother or nosy neighbor.” |
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| re: Tale of Hoffman | |
| Posted by: Roman 11:40 pm EDT 10/06/21 | |
| In reply to: Tale of Hoffman - WaymanWong 11:00 pm EDT 10/06/21 | |
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| She’s not wrong. But I fear Jane is. | |
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| re: What?.... | |
| Posted by: JT 03:33 pm EDT 10/06/21 | |
| In reply to: re: What?.... - MockingbirdGirl 03:05 pm EDT 10/06/21 | |
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| Female Jewish performers on Broadway (as is the case in movies and television) are most definitely underrepresented and it would make a positive impact to see a Jewish actress play Rosie Brice. As stated previously, representation matters! | |
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| re: What?.... | |
| Posted by: Pokernight 11:27 am EDT 10/07/21 | |
| In reply to: re: What?.... - JT 03:33 pm EDT 10/06/21 | |
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| This entire discussion makes me think of Sir Laurence Olivier in blackface as Othello. I need to banish that thought. | |
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| At August Wilson theater starting in March | |
| Posted by: dramedy 02:25 pm EDT 10/06/21 | |
| In reply to: Jane Lynch, not Rosie, playing Mrs Brice. nm - KingSpeed 12:58 pm EDT 10/06/21 | |
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| Tickets on pre sale now | |
| Link | https://www.playbill.com/article/ramin-karimloo-jane-lynch-jared-grimes-join-beanie-feldstein-in-funny-girl-broadway-revival |
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| Sophie Lennon as Mrs. Brice. nmi | |
| Posted by: Ann 01:39 pm EDT 10/06/21 | |
| In reply to: Jane Lynch, not Rosie, playing Mrs Brice. nm - KingSpeed 12:58 pm EDT 10/06/21 | |
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