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"Flop" does not equal "Miss", which is why we're asking for more words than just Hit and Flop
Posted by: Singapore/Fling 06:04 pm EDT 10/12/21
In reply to: re: which is why the terms "hit" and especially "flop" as originally defined make no sense in modern broadway. - ryhog 04:19 pm EDT 10/12/21

I think we're saying more or less the same thing in different ways, or from different aproaches.

What's interesting here is that you used the terms "hit" and "miss", but "miss" is not the same as "flop", and the conversation on this board generally insists that things are either Hits or Flops (as in, more than one person has literally written that a Broadway show can only be one or the other, and that anything short of a hit is a flop). Perhaps it's the way the word sounds, or perhaps it's the way the word became entangled with Ken Mandelbaum's book, but "flop" carries a much harsher judgment than "miss", in the same way that a "bomb" or a "turkey" carry a much harsher judgment than a "miss" or its kissing cousin a "misfire".

Since there are lots of different theater people, and they do view success or failure differently, shackling us to only two words - Hit and Flop - is wrong. And what's interesting, again, is that in defending the usage of those two words, both you and another poster used other words, which I believe is all that the OP of this sub-thread asked for.
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