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| "Ain't Too Proud" will close on Jan. 16th | |
| Posted by: NoPeopleLike 09:14 am EST 12/28/21 | |
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| That's the bad news of today. | |
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| re: "Ain't Too Proud" will close on Jan. 16th | |
| Posted by: Guillaume 02:28 pm EST 12/28/21 | |
| In reply to: "Ain't Too Proud" will close on Jan. 16th - NoPeopleLike 09:14 am EST 12/28/21 | |
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| The Times reports they received $10 million in taxpayer subsidies during Covid, and that they are closing having returned their investment. So the investors did well on the taxpayers' dime. | |
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| re: "Ain't Too Proud" will close on Jan. 16th | |
| Last Edit: CT2NYC 10:31 am EST 12/28/21 | |
| Posted by: CT2NYC 10:26 am EST 12/28/21 | |
| In reply to: "Ain't Too Proud" will close on Jan. 16th - NoPeopleLike 09:14 am EST 12/28/21 | |
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| Just goes to show that people have different definitions of what a "hit show" is. I thoroughly enjoyed it, but this news is not unexpected. If it had been MOULIN ROUGE or HADESTOWN, that would be a "really bad omen of what's to come." | |
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| A hit show | |
| Posted by: broadwaybacker 04:28 pm EST 12/28/21 | |
| In reply to: re: "Ain't Too Proud" will close on Jan. 16th - CT2NYC 10:26 am EST 12/28/21 | |
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| When I used the term hit show in reference to ATP, I was using the term in the technical sense, meaning a show that had recouped its investment. I thought ATP fit into that category, though I might have been wrong about that. (As a side note, ATP did get 11 Tony nominations and was selling a heck of a lot of tickets before the advent of COVID-19. And again, realizing that my memory may be faulty, I'm pretty sure that it was a Critic's Pick of Ben Brantley.) So I'll stand by my usage of the term. |
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| re: A hit show | |
| Posted by: Singapore/Fling 07:53 pm EST 12/28/21 | |
| In reply to: A hit show - broadwaybacker 04:28 pm EST 12/28/21 | |
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| How much of it recouping had to do with the $10 million? | |
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| re: A hit show | |
| Posted by: broadwaybacker 03:24 pm EST 12/29/21 | |
| In reply to: re: A hit show - Singapore/Fling 07:53 pm EST 12/28/21 | |
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| According to the person I know who is close to the show and who gave me the heads up about the show closing before it was public, very little if anything. The show had either recouped or was very close to recouping before Broadway closed down. I don't know all of the details but the $10 million was used primarily to pay for costs that were accruing during the shutdown, though I have no idea what they were. I bet Ryhog would know. | |
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| re: "Ain't Too Proud" will close on Jan. 16th | |
| Posted by: mikem 04:01 pm EST 12/28/21 | |
| In reply to: re: "Ain't Too Proud" will close on Jan. 16th - CT2NYC 10:26 am EST 12/28/21 | |
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| I would agree. It's sad and unfortunate, but not really surprising. | |
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| re: "Ain't Too Proud" will close on Jan. 16th | |
| Last Edit: PlayWiz 04:52 pm EST 12/28/21 | |
| Posted by: PlayWiz 04:51 pm EST 12/28/21 | |
| In reply to: re: "Ain't Too Proud" will close on Jan. 16th - mikem 04:01 pm EST 12/28/21 | |
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| They also had a really good showcase on the Kennedy Center Honors telecast this past week as part of Berry Gordy's tribute, though don't know if those Kennedy Center broadcasts translate into much in the way of ticket sales even during normal times. | |
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| re: "Ain't Too Proud" will close on Jan. 16th | |
| Posted by: jeffef 02:17 pm EST 12/29/21 | |
| In reply to: re: "Ain't Too Proud" will close on Jan. 16th - PlayWiz 04:51 pm EST 12/28/21 | |
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| I thought that was terrible. Was that the actual cast? I’ve seen the Temptations and they weren’t close to the vibe of the originals. |
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| re: "Ain't Too Proud" will close on Jan. 16th | |
| Last Edit: PlayWiz 03:28 pm EST 12/29/21 | |
| Posted by: PlayWiz 03:27 pm EST 12/29/21 | |
| In reply to: re: "Ain't Too Proud" will close on Jan. 16th - jeffef 02:17 pm EST 12/29/21 | |
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| I haven't seen the show, but I seem to recall the real Temptations had some great moves which had been choreographed for them but they didn't do all those splits and overly difficult choreography that these guys do. Granted, the actors nowadays are very good and work hard, but part of the secret to the Temptations, besides their great voices and songs, were that they were very cool and rather elegant and didn't seem to be working hard. They were cool, reaaaal coool. | |
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| re: "Ain't Too Proud" will close on Jan. 16th | |
| Posted by: broadwaybacker 05:39 pm EST 12/29/21 | |
| In reply to: re: "Ain't Too Proud" will close on Jan. 16th - PlayWiz 03:27 pm EST 12/29/21 | |
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| Let's assume you're right about their choreography, and based on some video I've seen on line, one link being attached, you probably are. But respectfully, so what? I don't think the point of the show (or of any similar show) is to put on a group of impersonators trying to replicate every dance step and every harmony. I think what you'd be looking to do as the director and the choreographer is to entertain the audience, to thrill them if possible, and having seen the show twice, once in DC before it opened in NY and again on Broadway, they succeeded. Both times I saw the show, people were dancing at their seats and in the aisles during curtain calls. You couldn't help but be amazed at how the cast was able to DO the moves you mention, e.g. the splits, etc. and sing at the same time. Since you haven't seen the show but seem to have appreciated the Temptations, I really recommend that you catch it on tour. | |
| Link | The Temptations |
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| re: "Ain't Too Proud" will close on Jan. 16th | |
| Last Edit: PlayWiz 06:26 pm EST 12/29/21 | |
| Posted by: PlayWiz 06:25 pm EST 12/29/21 | |
| In reply to: re: "Ain't Too Proud" will close on Jan. 16th - broadwaybacker 05:39 pm EST 12/29/21 | |
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| Oh, I think I'd enjoy it -- I like well-done backstage musicals (or one that at least have some entertaining numbers), and I enjoy the music of the Temptations. I also know that the creative people in charge of this want to make it entertaining. But someone else on this thread (and some others) didn't like the Kennedy Center representation of the show, and it also seemed to me in other clips I've seen to be a case of a bit of trying too much. The Dreams (thinly disguised Supremes, who true didn't move much in performance) weren't doing backflips in "Dreamgirls", and that was mighty entertaining, too. Given their song repertoire and the obvious talent of the people in the show, I'm sure it's entertaining though. | |
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| re: "Ain't Too Proud" will close on Jan. 16th | |
| Posted by: broadwaybacker 07:01 pm EST 12/29/21 | |
| In reply to: re: "Ain't Too Proud" will close on Jan. 16th - PlayWiz 06:25 pm EST 12/29/21 | |
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| There’s only one review I found of the current tour production, and I linked it. I’m not sure what the Kennedy Center reference was about, cause the tour production opened last night after a COVID delay. As the ad said, “Try it, you’ll like it”. | |
| Link | Tour review |
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| re: "Ain't Too Proud" will close on Jan. 16th | |
| Posted by: TheHarveyBoy 09:44 am EST 12/28/21 | |
| In reply to: "Ain't Too Proud" will close on Jan. 16th - NoPeopleLike 09:14 am EST 12/28/21 | |
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| "If I have to beg and plead for your sympathy, I don't mind 'cause you mean that much to me..." | |
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