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re: as a single man with married friends...
Posted by: PlayWiz 12:16 am EST 01/02/22
In reply to: as a single man with married friends... - Chazwaza 11:58 pm EST 01/01/22

" You don't just drop a friendship because your life becomes that of a couple or a parent. " It happens, and it sucks. There's at least one other poster on this thread who concurs. But you're fortunate.

I don't know why Sondheim and the others fought against productions making Bobby gay. It would, yes, work better with surrounding couples both gay and straight. To a lesbian couple, a gay guy isn't usually a threat. To some gay couples, a single gay guy might men possibly play around if they are open and he is up for it (and somehow acknowledges to at least them that he is gay, even if otherwise to other couples he is closeted). Or he just might be a great friend, and they'd be interested in hearing about his social and/or sex life. Among other kinds of permutations, it would just make a more plausible show.
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re: as a single man with married friends...
Last Edit: Chazwaza 03:30 am EST 01/02/22
Posted by: Chazwaza 03:27 am EST 01/02/22
In reply to: re: as a single man with married friends... - PlayWiz 12:16 am EST 01/02/22

I don't think Bobby should be not a threat sexually, just not trying to be one... despite the lyrics from the couples "who's always a flirt, but never a threat" (flirting is only flirting if there's a theoretical sexual compatibility anyway, so that should be there), which I don't think is meant to confirm that he *could* never, just that it is not what these friendships are. Also, Someone Is Waiting has to be able friends that are potential partners for Bobby whether a straight male with women, or gay male with men (or straight woman with men)... not to mention that in the original, at least one of the coupled friends, Amy, is someone Bobby had something with in the past, no?

My pitch is it be gay male Bobby and all gay male couples... maybe a bi couple or poly... and we not worry about the "threat" of him being an attractive man around other gay men, welcome to gay life. Gay men with gay male friends (very very common, be they coupled or not) always have the potential of sexual attraction to each other *and* the potential to act on it. Friendships are not barred because that could happen.
It should be a present factor though especially in friendship with Joanne (whatever the gay male version would be... Jonah?), where a sexual chemistry they've never acted on, even an unlikely one, is part of what makes the interested in being friends, part of the dynamic... hence the line "when are we gonna make it?" A very believable and common thing in gay male friendships. And propositioning a friend when drunk if you're gay often doesnt' even come with adultery strings, because so many gay couples are open or willing to accept sex as not the biblical dealbreaker straight marriages tend to (or pretend to) see it as.
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