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what might their next hit revival be?
Last Edit: Chazwaza 04:02 am EST 01/05/22
Posted by: Chazwaza 03:57 am EST 01/05/22
In reply to: re: *not even just at the Vivian, but any new musical on broadway - Singapore/Fling 02:49 am EST 01/05/22

First, I just cannot count Contact -- whatever award it won, it is a dance piece with no score or singing -- it doesn't have a cast recording, it is almost never reproduced because people who put up musicals or go see musicals outside of Broadway aren't even able let alone interested in doing the show without Stroman, blah blah ...
And happy to take Juan Darien off, I didn't realize that was a revival.

While I commend their record I still say it's far too few given the number of years they've been at it and the resources and outreach to artists they have.

But my question now is... I wonder what the next hit revival will be for them. I mean, they've never done a revival that wasn't a big hit, have they? We've really run out of clear contenders.
My guesses include Kiss of the Spider Woman, Camelot, Zorba, Candide, Street Scene, Fiorello, and Dreamgirls. But only a couple of those are likely hits.
I can see them doing A Little Night Music or Follies in the next 10 years, maybe Ragtime, and maybe Floyd Collins, maybe The Wiz, and maybe Parade... their first revival of their own show.
All of their revivals have been shows that were already very famous and beloved titles in productions that stunningly reinvented them or just stunningly presented them traditionally. So far they don't remount lost/unknown gems, or shows that have been done recently, and they don't remount things that were popular without being classic and nuanced. I'm not sure we have many shows left that fit. Most of what I'd see fitting for them has either been done recently by other producers, or is nowhere near enough of a popular title or surefire hot ticket.
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re: what might their next hit revival be? - answer: Camelot
Posted by: toros 12:12 pm EST 01/05/22
In reply to: what might their next hit revival be? - Chazwaza 03:57 am EST 01/05/22

It will be Camelot, with a new book by Aaron Sorkin. they're have been two readings/workshops
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re: what might their next hit revival be? - answer: Camelot
Posted by: showtunetrivia 07:45 pm EST 01/05/22
In reply to: re: what might their next hit revival be? - answer: Camelot - toros 12:12 pm EST 01/05/22

Cast the leads young! Young, idealistic, vain, mistake-prone, full of youthful zeal and passion, lacking a mature viewpoint. That’s why the loss of Merlin is so critical.

Burton was 34, Goulet a little older, Andrews was about 25.


Laura, who admits she cast an even younger Burton in a fictional Kurt Weill musical…
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re: what might their next hit revival be? - answer: Camelot
Posted by: Chazwaza 09:22 pm EST 01/05/22
In reply to: re: what might their next hit revival be? - answer: Camelot - showtunetrivia 07:45 pm EST 01/05/22

The last times I saw Camelot Arthur was played by Michael York in his mid 60s (at La Mirada, with Rachel York and James Barbour), and Gabriel Byrne at 58 (in the staged concert for Live from Lincoln Center, with Marin Mazzie and Nathan Gunn, which was a mixed bag at best, and a mistake at worst).

I too am tired of seeing old Arthurs.
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There is a soundtrack available for Contact
Posted by: jeffef 12:04 pm EST 01/05/22
In reply to: what might their next hit revival be? - Chazwaza 03:57 am EST 01/05/22

A purely dance piece, not a musical, as wonderful as it was.
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CONTACT -- a Rare Original Broadway Production that has a Recording that Can Legitimately Be Called a SOUNDTRACK!
Posted by: BroadwayTonyJ 11:03 am EST 01/05/22
In reply to: what might their next hit revival be? - Chazwaza 03:57 am EST 01/05/22

I love the original production of Contact, although I would not have voted it the Best Musical Tony award. It certainly has a score. It's just not an original one, and it's not sung live, and the music is not performed by a live orchestra -- too many caveats (IMO) to be the Best Musical winner. That said, it was a great show (Notice: I am not calling it a musical) and I'm glad I saw it with the original cast.
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re: CONTACT -- a Rare Original Broadway Production that has a Recording that Can Legitimately Be Called a SOUNDTRACK!
Posted by: Chazwaza 11:38 am EST 01/05/22
In reply to: CONTACT -- a Rare Original Broadway Production that has a Recording that Can Legitimately Be Called a SOUNDTRACK! - BroadwayTonyJ 11:03 am EST 01/05/22

Thanks for intently not calling it a musical! :)

Yes, plays have scores too... movies have scores.

Of course I mean an original tapestry of songs written for the show and sung by performers in the show.
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re: CONTACT -- a Rare Original Broadway Production that has a Recording that Can Legitimately Be Called a SOUNDTRACK!
Posted by: BroadwayTonyJ 12:01 pm EST 01/05/22
In reply to: re: CONTACT -- a Rare Original Broadway Production that has a Recording that Can Legitimately Be Called a SOUNDTRACK! - Chazwaza 11:38 am EST 01/05/22

I knew what you meant. I was just trying to chide you, to get you to lighten up a bit.

I wanted to get in my joke about a Broadway show really having a soundtrack and to emphasize my feeling that Contact is a show, but not necessarily a musical.

BTW (and changing the subject), the '54 film On the Waterfront has a great score by Leonard Bernstein. He doesn't conduct the orchestra on it, but he does play the piano on at least one cue. There is a complete CD soundtrack recording of its score, and it is just as memorable as his Broadway scores. There are moments in the score that forecast (I hope that's the right word) the music he would compose for West Side Story.
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re: CONTACT -- a Rare Original Broadway Production that has a Recording that Can Legitimately Be Called a SOUNDTRACK!
Posted by: Chazwaza 12:20 pm EST 01/05/22
In reply to: re: CONTACT -- a Rare Original Broadway Production that has a Recording that Can Legitimately Be Called a SOUNDTRACK! - BroadwayTonyJ 12:01 pm EST 01/05/22

Oh, I got it. Did my smiley face not signal that?

:)
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re: CONTACT -- a Rare Original Broadway Production that has a Recording that Can Legitimately Be Called a SOUNDTRACK!
Posted by: BroadwayTonyJ 12:31 pm EST 01/05/22
In reply to: re: CONTACT -- a Rare Original Broadway Production that has a Recording that Can Legitimately Be Called a SOUNDTRACK! - Chazwaza 12:20 pm EST 01/05/22

I'm too old to figure out emoticons. Of course, I should have just googled it, my bad.
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re: CONTACT -- a Rare Original Broadway Production that has a Recording that Can Legitimately Be Called a SOUNDTRACK!
Posted by: writerkev 11:41 am EST 01/05/22
In reply to: re: CONTACT -- a Rare Original Broadway Production that has a Recording that Can Legitimately Be Called a SOUNDTRACK! - Chazwaza 11:38 am EST 01/05/22

The creators of the piece themselves didn't call it a musical until the critics did. When the show started at the Mitzi Newhouse, it was billed as "a dance play."
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re: CONTACT -- a Rare Original Broadway Production that has a Recording that Can Legitimately Be Called a SOUNDTRACK!
Posted by: Chazwaza 11:56 am EST 01/05/22
In reply to: re: CONTACT -- a Rare Original Broadway Production that has a Recording that Can Legitimately Be Called a SOUNDTRACK! - writerkev 11:41 am EST 01/05/22

Yep! And I didn't mean this thread to veer into a debate on if Contact is a "musical (luckily there's been no debate yet, those who replied seem to agree with me), but it's just such a shame it got forced into that category in a year with so many worthwhile and actual musicals. It wasn't in one of the years where Jukebox musicals dominated... it took the award from musicals where the craft of writing and performing musicals was on full and varied display in The Wild Party (easily my choice for "best musical"), Aida, Marie Christine, even James Joyce's The Dead... and even Putting It Together might have snuck in with a Best Musical nomination had it not been for Contact. At least Swing! was a revue with singing (though of course not better as a piece of original theater than Contact).

I suppose if one doesn't like either LaChiusa musical or Aida then this must seem like a very weak year, but I happen to love them both and I respect Aida for what it was as an original musical and production and its long run and many passionate fans who must have been quite perturbed and confused by the Tonys that year.
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re: what might their next hit revival be?
Posted by: scoot1er 09:19 am EST 01/05/22
In reply to: what might their next hit revival be? - Chazwaza 03:57 am EST 01/05/22

The last revival of Show Boat closed on this date 25 years ago. Yes, it was a big hit and ran over two years, but I think it would be a great fit for the Beaumont. It's big, extravagant, and was controversial it the time Hammerstein and Kern wrote it. It is still timely, and, of course, has that gorgeous score.
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re: what might their next hit revival be?
Posted by: writerkev 05:40 am EST 01/05/22
In reply to: what might their next hit revival be? - Chazwaza 03:57 am EST 01/05/22

Is “Brigadoon” revivable at that scale? It’s one of the only known titles from the golden age I’ve never seen onstage. Worth doing?
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re: what might their next hit revival be?
Posted by: Chazwaza 11:46 am EST 01/05/22
In reply to: re: what might their next hit revival be? - writerkev 05:40 am EST 01/05/22

I considered Brigadoon for the list but I just don't think as a play, or score, it is at the level of the other classics they've had such critical success with. I'm sure LCT (Bart or otherwise) could do a magnificent production, and I happen to love Brigadoon... but I don't think it's a strong enough play for them to do it.
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