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| Heard on the Rialto: TO KILL A MOCKINGBIRD closing Sunday | |
| Last Edit: MockingbirdGirl 04:21 pm EST 01/12/22 | |
| Posted by: MockingbirdGirl 04:19 pm EST 01/12/22 | |
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| Only yesterday, their official Twitter account was promoting Broadway Week tickets (Jan 18 - Feb 13). No official confirmation yet, though... |
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| Not closing | |
| Posted by: ShowGoer 04:37 pm EST 01/12/22 | |
| In reply to: Heard on the Rialto: TO KILL A MOCKINGBIRD closing Sunday - MockingbirdGirl 04:19 pm EST 01/12/22 | |
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| They're pausing till the spring, same as Mrs Doubtfire. (Now, is there a chance it won't come back? Sure, same as Doubtfire and anything else that does the same thing. The main question is how many shows will follow suit to get them through the next two months.) The one thing I'd say is either way it does seem odd to make this call less than a day after Broadway Week tickets go on sale. You'd think they either would have pulled the trigger on a temporary closure first, or wait another week or two to see if ticket sales take off for that month. But maybe Greg Kinnear getting Covid and presumably being out for another week or two has led to a sudden stampede of refunds at the box office. |
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| Time will tell... | |
| Posted by: TheHarveyBoy 06:18 am EST 01/13/22 | |
| In reply to: Not closing - ShowGoer 04:37 pm EST 01/12/22 | |
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| The poor actors hung on for 20 months only to performa for a couple of weeks and then forced on a four-month hiatus. | |
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| re: Time will tell... | |
| Posted by: ryhog 01:00 pm EST 01/13/22 | |
| In reply to: Time will tell... - TheHarveyBoy 06:18 am EST 01/13/22 | |
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| huh? "couple of weeks" what are you talking about? |
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| re: Time will tell... | |
| Posted by: Delvino 08:34 pm EST 01/14/22 | |
| In reply to: re: Time will tell... - ryhog 01:00 pm EST 01/13/22 | |
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| A friend was at Girl from the North Country Thursday night. 300 people. Heartbreaking. Can't imagine how they'll return. I'm heading back this next week to see Winningham, who was out when I saw the show. (But in further praise of the glorious cover, Jennifer Blood.) | |
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| Girl from North Country doing a similar thing… | |
| Posted by: Leon_W 05:49 pm EST 01/12/22 | |
| In reply to: Not closing - ShowGoer 04:37 pm EST 01/12/22 | |
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| Closes 23rd for a few weeks. | |
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| Tweet | |
| Posted by: sirpupnyc 05:57 pm EST 01/12/22 | |
| In reply to: Girl from North Country doing a similar thing… - Leon_W 05:49 pm EST 01/12/22 | |
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| GIRL FROM THE NORTH COUNTRY will play its final performance at The Belasco Theatre on Jan 23. With plans to return in the Spring, we look forward to welcoming audiences back to The North Country. All tickets for the cancelled performances will be refunded at point of purchase. | |
| Link | https://twitter.com/NorthCountryBwy/status/1481393635308584961?s=20 |
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| Plans to return… to which theater? | |
| Posted by: Singapore/Fling 06:09 pm EST 01/12/22 | |
| In reply to: Tweet - sirpupnyc 05:57 pm EST 01/12/22 | |
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| Mockingbird The Play (not the poster) just announced that they’re downsizing to the Belasco, so where would North Country “return” to? I’m surprised that Mockingbird made their announcement before North Country had the chance to put a better story out there. | |
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| There really is no reason | |
| Posted by: dramedy 07:22 pm EST 01/12/22 | |
| In reply to: Plans to return… to which theater? - Singapore/Fling 06:09 pm EST 01/12/22 | |
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| To push Girl out unless it was permanently closing. Mockingbird could easily have moved to the broadhurst (about 150 seats more than belasco) or the golden (about 200 seats less than belasco). It wouldn’t make sense to move Girl to those theaters costing nearly $1m to transfer houses. Mockingbird transfer might be paid in part by Cinderella producers (ALW) to vacate the theater. It’s hard to tell how well or poorly a show is doing without weekly grosses. | |
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| re: Plans to return… to which theater? | |
| Last Edit: ryhog 06:27 pm EST 01/12/22 | |
| Posted by: ryhog 06:23 pm EST 01/12/22 | |
| In reply to: Plans to return… to which theater? - Singapore/Fling 06:09 pm EST 01/12/22 | |
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| This is only a guess but if (and I don't think it is anywhere near a foregone conclusion) North Country comes back, it would likely be the Booth but real estate is not going to be hard to come by. This pas de deux was handled so clumsily because of a faux pax when Telecharge accidentally sent out emails cancelling all tickets beyond the 16th earlier in the day. And as long as I am guessing like a crazy person, Cinderella to the Shubert. |
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| re: Plans to return… to which theater? | |
| Posted by: dbdbdb 06:45 pm EST 01/12/22 | |
| In reply to: re: Plans to return… to which theater? - ryhog 06:23 pm EST 01/12/22 | |
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| I believe you are correct about Cinderella. And my understanding is that the production design will require a fair amount of engineering work to the theatre. Which means they have to get started now if the show is to open in the late summer or early fall. | |
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| re: Plans to return… to which theater? | |
| Last Edit: sirpupnyc 06:30 pm EST 01/12/22 | |
| Posted by: sirpupnyc 06:28 pm EST 01/12/22 | |
| In reply to: re: Plans to return… to which theater? - ryhog 06:23 pm EST 01/12/22 | |
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| For Colored Girls... has the Booth, starting March 4. I think the Lyceum is the only smaller Broadway theatre (and only just barely) without an announced spring booking. |
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| re: Plans to return… to which theater? | |
| Posted by: ryhog 06:56 pm EST 01/12/22 | |
| In reply to: re: Plans to return… to which theater? - sirpupnyc 06:28 pm EST 01/12/22 | |
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| If it returns, I doubt it is going to be in the spring. | |
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| re: Plans to return… to which theater? | |
| Posted by: Singapore/Fling 06:55 pm EST 01/12/22 | |
| In reply to: re: Plans to return… to which theater? - sirpupnyc 06:28 pm EST 01/12/22 | |
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| Last we heard, Strange Loop is at The Lyceum. | |
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| re: Plans to return… to which theater? | |
| Posted by: sirpupnyc 07:20 pm EST 01/12/22 | |
| In reply to: re: Plans to return… to which theater? - Singapore/Fling 06:55 pm EST 01/12/22 | |
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| So it is...I should have looked at the current list, but it's not on that, either. Maybe GFNC is thinking of a 499? Stage 42 or New World 3? Resume in May to get the Tony voters in? (Have all of the nominators now managed to see it?) |
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| That would be a first to move offbroadway before tonys. | |
| Posted by: dramedy 07:24 pm EST 01/12/22 | |
| In reply to: re: Plans to return… to which theater? - sirpupnyc 07:20 pm EST 01/12/22 | |
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| But anything is possible during covid. | |
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| Sorry you don't like the "story".... | |
| Last Edit: ShowGoer 06:19 pm EST 01/12/22 | |
| Posted by: ShowGoer 06:17 pm EST 01/12/22 | |
| In reply to: Plans to return… to which theater? - Singapore/Fling 06:09 pm EST 01/12/22 | |
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| Not sure what's so sinister or surprising about it. Mockingbird is moving to a smaller theater (the Belasco, where North Country is), while North Country, which had closed off the balcony section in recent weeks, is similarly moving to a smaller theater TBD. (I imagine this is so the Britney Spears jukebox musical or some other splashy show can take the Shubert.) As far as why they haven't 'put a better story out there', I'm guessing that's because.. they don't know which theater yet?? How many shows every season announce they're coming in without a concrete house (this year alone, that group includes the Audra McDonald "Ohio State Murders" and "A Strange Loop", and the return of "American Utopia" had tickets on sale for a year and a half without announcing which theater they were moving into. ("King Lear" with Glenda Jackson did something similar a few years back, if I recall.) And perhaps you haven't heard, but things in the entertainment industry, and for that matter the world in general, are a bit... fluid right now. Even more than usual. My guess is that North Country will "return" to whichever theater it eventually winds up "in". |
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| A questionable story, hastily told | |
| Last Edit: Singapore/Fling 07:16 pm EST 01/12/22 | |
| Posted by: Singapore/Fling 07:15 pm EST 01/12/22 | |
| In reply to: Sorry you don't like the "story".... - ShowGoer 06:17 pm EST 01/12/22 | |
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| What's surprising about is that there is generally a process of decorum by which shows who are vacating a theater have the chance to put their narrative out there - which is, of course, the purpose of PR - before the shows who are taking over that theater announce that they are moving in. But ryhog gave us actually useful intel as to why this was bungled in the way that it was. What's clear is that they had a very tiny window to try and put together a face-saving explanation. As for the story they're asking us to support, I have some credibility gaps. They were only selling through April 24, 2022 to begin with, and there are only a few Broadway houses that are significantly smaller than the Belasco, so if their trouble selling the show predated Omicron, it doesn't seem to be worth the economic impact of loading into a new theater (really, their only option for a smaller theater in the spring would be the Golden... which maybe will happen). Of the examples you cite, "Strange Loop" has announced a theater, and the shows that were selling tickets without a theater in place, or who sold tickets and then moved, were still selling tickets, whereas "North Country" is refunding all of the tickets. You're right, we are in a weird place. We returned to the old producing model hastily, and shows are scrambling under the weight of this variant to find a way forward. Looking at ticket sales for most shows this month is downright depressing: so many big plays and musicals have advance sales of a few hundred tickets each night. That's why this idea of moving into a new theater strikes me as the same thing as a show "closing to tour". I didn't say it was sinister, just noticeable in its sloppiness. |
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| re: A questionable story, hastily told | |
| Posted by: ryhog 07:53 pm EST 01/12/22 | |
| In reply to: A questionable story, hastily told - Singapore/Fling 07:15 pm EST 01/12/22 | |
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| First, I think the idea that North Country is coming back "in the spring" [if at all] is far-fetched. Second, even if we come back from Omicron in the most optimistic way possible, the spring is going nonetheless have a ton of pain. I still think we are going to see more closings, more hiatuses, etc., and real estate is not ever going to be tight. Third, I doubt TKAM is moving volitionally or, if it is, because its producer is involved in what will follow. (And, if one is hungry for something sinister, this may be where it lurks, but I am not going there.) Fourth, GFTNC is pretty clearly NOT making a volitional move. (I can see why Mockingbird might want to downsize and also why they might not want any of the other downsized alternatives, but I can't envision why North Country would, and I can't fathom where it might get the money to do so.) Fifth, I very much sign on to the close to tour analogy. | |
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| re: A questionable story, hastily told | |
| Posted by: sirpupnyc 07:24 pm EST 01/12/22 | |
| In reply to: A questionable story, hastily told - Singapore/Fling 07:15 pm EST 01/12/22 | |
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| Golden's booked, announcing soon. | |
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| Ooh, now I’m excited | |
| Posted by: Singapore/Fling 07:35 pm EST 01/12/22 | |
| In reply to: re: A questionable story, hastily told - sirpupnyc 07:24 pm EST 01/12/22 | |
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| Any chance it’s a show involving ice skating? | |
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| re: Ooh, now I’m excited | |
| Posted by: PurpleMoney 09:01 pm EST 01/12/22 | |
| In reply to: Ooh, now I’m excited - Singapore/Fling 07:35 pm EST 01/12/22 | |
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| Golden = Assassins? | |
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| re: Ooh, now I’m excited | |
| Posted by: Ann 08:05 pm EST 01/12/22 | |
| In reply to: Ooh, now I’m excited - Singapore/Fling 07:35 pm EST 01/12/22 | |
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| Starlight Express on Ice? | |
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| You joke | |
| Posted by: dramedy 09:47 pm EST 01/12/22 | |
| In reply to: re: Ooh, now I’m excited - Ann 08:05 pm EST 01/12/22 | |
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| But that did happen in 1997. | |
| Link | https://www.playbill.com/article/starlight-express-coming-to-an-ice-rink-near-you-com-71377 |
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| re: Sorry you don't like the "story".... | |
| Posted by: Ncassidine 06:53 pm EST 01/12/22 | |
| In reply to: Sorry you don't like the "story".... - ShowGoer 06:17 pm EST 01/12/22 | |
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| Also, June is forever from now. Nobody knows what will be open. | |
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