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re: Charmless
Posted by: reed23 05:52 pm EST 02/10/22
In reply to: Charmless - Genealley 03:38 pm EST 02/10/22

"The smartest woman in town falls for him just because she's lonely and resigned to her lot."

Actually, her eyes are suddenly opened when she sees her withdrawn, self-conscious, sad little brother explode with verbose excitement at the arrival of the band instruments and clothes. It's at that moment that she sees something in Hill that he doesn't believe himself – that his con can transform lives for the better. And it's at that moment she decides to withhold the damning evidence of his con.

Winthrop is the centerpiece of the plot – it's his reaction at the end of Act One that opens Marian's eyes; and it is to him that Hill, for the first time in his dubious career, admits his fraud to anyone other than his longtime friend Marcellus. And it is to him that Hill reveals that he lives partly in the dreamworld he creates for his marks ("I always think there's a band, kid.")
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re: Charmless
Posted by: Singapore/Fling 06:26 pm EST 02/10/22
In reply to: re: Charmless - reed23 05:52 pm EST 02/10/22

"I always think there's a band, kid."

It’s a very Trumpian sentiment, you have to admit.
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re: Charmless
Posted by: KingSpeed 11:42 pm EST 02/10/22
In reply to: re: Charmless - Singapore/Fling 06:26 pm EST 02/10/22

How so?
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re: Charmless
Posted by: Singapore/Fling 12:19 am EST 02/11/22
In reply to: re: Charmless - KingSpeed 11:42 pm EST 02/10/22

The liar who believes his own lies and therefore convinces himself he’s not lying. It’s not a con if the conman thinks he’s going to deliver, even though he’s run this con all over the Midwest and has never delivered? Come on.

I always think there’s a band is up there with this hurricane tracker clearly shows the storm’s path is what I said it was.
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You're more optimistically than I
Last Edit: Genealley 06:15 pm EST 02/10/22
Posted by: Genealley 06:14 pm EST 02/10/22
In reply to: re: Charmless - reed23 05:52 pm EST 02/10/22

I'd like to think that Marian feels he could change, but I feel that deep down she knows he probably won't. Especially after Charlie Cowell lets her in on his history. I don't think that ending resolves the issue.

We're seeing things through her eyes...not his.
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re: You're more optimistically than I
Posted by: Roman 09:57 pm EST 02/10/22
In reply to: You're more optimistically than I - Genealley 06:14 pm EST 02/10/22

You mean the tap number isn’t an interpretive dance of how he’s step-ball-changed his ways? Perhaps it symbolizes how she’ll be tapping his feet at his excuse for coming home late? (Note:the tap number is insipid and unnecessary.).
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re: You're more optimistically than I
Posted by: Chromolume 08:33 pm EST 02/11/22
In reply to: re: You're more optimistically than I - Roman 09:57 pm EST 02/10/22

Perhaps it symbolizes how she’ll be tapping his feet

Now there's an interesting trick. Tap dancing on top of someone else's feet?
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